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  92. # [03:25] <promet> I realize that it's a "jungle", nearly beyond my comprehension actually; does anyone though ever see the html5, cross-browser, video streaming method to ever become more simple?
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  94. # [03:26] <promet> or will stakeholders also keep it fractured, and therefore like digging a one mile ditch to implement?
  95. # [03:26] <promet> also = always
  96. # [03:27] <promet> It seems like an excellent opportunity but, also, like a bit of a mirage...
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  98. # [03:28] <es> don't get what you're asking?
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  100. # [03:28] <es> html5 and video streaming are no problem
  101. # [03:28] <es> it might be the css that's your issue
  102. # [03:28] <promet> es, please enlighten me
  103. # [03:29] <es> link/example?
  104. # [03:29] <promet> So, not different formats, players, and browsers that need to be accomodated but only css...
  105. # [03:29] <emerson> vp8 is very widely supported as a video format in browsers now
  106. # [03:30] <promet> es, just trying to think about it more clearly
  107. # [03:30] <es> The way to do it would be do have a responsive design
  108. # [03:31] <es> aka setting most divs (esp vid player) to either 100% or 50% width based on design
  109. # [03:31] <promet> That's a start, never heard of vp8. Would one need to covert server-side videos to vp8, or is some kind of "transcoding" involved. What Player do you use with vp8?>
  110. # [03:32] <es> I'd just upload to YouTube or Vimeo and save your bandwidth
  111. # [03:32] <es> but if it has to be hosted server side... lemme know?
  112. # [03:32] <es> what's the issue with embedding a youtube or vimeo iframe into your site?
  113. # [03:33] <es> just make sure the iframe is responsive
  114. # [03:33] <es> in that specific container
  115. # [03:34] <es> ie: http://buffalomediagroup.com/clients/Fulminology/
  116. # [03:34] <es> view the code/css for that video
  117. # [03:34] <emerson> ideally you'd have them in webm format on your server and then just embed them with the <video> tag
  118. # [03:35] <promet> es, I do use Youtube in most instances, sometimes, with edited video etc. (it can be hard to argue "fair use" with Youtube sometimes), I'd want to host locally
  119. # [03:35] <emerson> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats#Browser_compatibility has a good breakdown of different support
  120. # [03:35] <promet> es, emerson, thank you very much, I will check these out.
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  122. # [03:35] <emerson> basically if you have a vp8/webm and H.264/mp4, you'll be good to go
  123. # [03:35] <es> locally is not ideal unless you're hosting illegal shit, which idc about
  124. # [03:36] <es> but if you can't throw it on YT you might be getting bitched at a different way
  125. # [03:36] <emerson> yea, you do need to have a good hosting provider if youre hosting them locally
  126. # [03:36] <emerson> or put them on a cdn or something
  127. # [03:36] <es> and cost mad bandwidth $, depends on your plan
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  129. # [03:37] <promet> That is all super-good advice, thanks again, my host seems to be pretty "open" though. On the other hand, I run a totally "backwater" blog that has never been "punish tested"
  130. # [03:38] <es> gonna go smoke a cig, stressed out with all the other shit i had to deal with today at work
  131. # [03:38] <es> fml
  132. # [03:38] <promet> I'm sure if a bajillion people checked it out one day though...
  133. # [03:38] <promet> es, blessings on that; you seem smart enough to get another job ;)
  134. # [03:39] <promet> random encouragement from a stranger
  135. # [03:41] <promet> es, now I feel like I owe you "hazard pay"...
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  204. # [08:48] <elephaant> does anyone know what X-Accel-Redirect is?
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  236. # [11:17] <eddq> Hello. I'm having an issue which is front-end/html5 ish based. I have date inputs specified which are working in the regional locales fine and then submitting with the Wire date format, however in safari and firefox if I used the jquery datepicker it fails validation as it is box presentationally and otw formatted for the locale... Is there a fix so that it can present in a different format ( 28/07/2015 ) but then be submitted in the Wire format?
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  239. # [11:21] <JosefDe> Hi guys. How can I validate time in HTML5, like "09:00"
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  243. # [11:36] <nkuttler> JosefDe: you can't. you can use an input with type time and hope the browser does it for you
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  459. # [21:33] <cquilty> Is there really no way to validate HTML 5 documents?
  460. # [21:33] <cquilty> That is, the output from the W3C validator is ambiguous to say the least.
  461. # [21:33] <cquilty> And the local tool I use to check HTML pages as well.
  462. # [21:33] <cquilty> Basically, whenever a document is detected as HTML 5, it's just "HTML 5".
  463. # [21:33] <cquilty> It's not "valid" or "not valid". It's just HTML 5.
  464. # [21:34] <cquilty> That confuses me.
  465. # [21:34] <es> link to the w3c validator, with your site in it?
  466. # [21:34] <cquilty> Can't be done for privacy reasons, but that's what I've discovered when checking it lately (after not having used it for years).
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  468. # [21:35] <arup_r> es, Hi
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  471. # [21:39] <es> hey arup
  472. # [21:39] <es> alright cquilty
  473. # [21:40] <es> if you can't validate through w3c then you have an issue
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  475. # [21:41] <cquilty> es: ...
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  507. # [23:17] <stallmen> guys how should i learn html5
  508. # [23:18] <stallmen> nobody will help me?
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