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- # [01:28] <Nairwolf> Hi, the tag <div> and the tag <figure> are the same in reality ? What's the difference, just semantic ?
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- # [01:32] <electriX> No
- # [01:33] <electriX> I mean, yeah, I suppose. <figure> is more of HTML5 semantics
- # [01:34] <electriX> but mainly used for images
- # [01:34] <electriX> ie: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_figure.asp
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- # [01:34] <electriX> "Use a <figure> element to mark up a photo in a document:"
- # [01:34] <electriX> I'd still be using divs tho
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- # [01:35] <electriX> "The <figure> tag specifies self-contained content, like illustrations, diagrams, photos, code listings, etc."
- # [01:36] <Nairwolf> Because, I'm trying to understand that : http://desandro.github.io/3dtransforms/docs/card-flip.html
- # [01:37] <Nairwolf> I see, thank you
- # [01:37] <electriX> Read w3schools first
- # [01:37] <electriX> those are meant for images and stuff
- # [01:37] <electriX> otherwise you should use properly-written divs
- # [01:37] <Nairwolf> if it's just semantic, if I change figure for div tag, the results should be the same
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- # [01:38] <Nairwolf> electriX : thank you, I've read w3schools a lot before
- # [01:38] <electriX> Don't see any reason why SEO would be impacted based on using divs, but I've never used that tag before, doubt it has any impact on besides being html5 semantic
- # [01:38] <electriX> but I'd use that for images if you could, just gotta style the <figure> tag correctly
- # [01:38] <Nairwolf> I don't care about SEO because it will not be fro web
- # [01:38] <electriX> Mainly use WordPress now for all my site devs
- # [01:38] <Nairwolf> for web
- # [01:39] <electriX> yeah then just style that tag
- # [01:39] <Nairwolf> ok
- # [01:39] <electriX> it's eventually gonna go that way
- # [01:39] <Nairwolf> thanks
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- # [01:39] <electriX> so might as well
- # [01:39] <electriX> look into <article>
- # [01:39] <electriX> <header>
- # [01:39] <electriX> etc.
- # [01:39] <electriX> if you're trying to learn html5
- # [01:40] <Nairwolf> no, it isn't just semantic, the effect is different
- # [01:40] <electriX> the div you're using should be the same styles as the actual <figure>?
- # [01:40] <electriX> well, not technically because that's image based
- # [01:41] <electriX> guess it depends on how your site is set up
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- # [01:41] <electriX> brb
- # [01:42] <Nairwolf> compare this (div tag) : http://jsfiddle.net/6f706bb8/ and this (figure tag) : http://jsfiddle.net/m9ywcaph/
- # [01:45] <Nairwolf> I don't have style yet
- # [01:48] <electriX> that's fine if you have a css class for front and back
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- # [01:49] <Nairwolf> yes
- # [01:49] <Nairwolf> I will let the figure tag
- # [01:49] <electriX> or preferrably
- # [01:49] <electriX> #card .front
- # [01:49] <electriX> etc
- # [01:49] <electriX> would make your stylesheet look better
- # [01:49] <Nairwolf> yes
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- # [01:59] <electriX> any word?
- # [01:59] <electriX> or still stuck
- # [02:01] <Nairwolf> electriX : are you talking to me ?
- # [02:02] <electriX> yeah
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- # [02:10] <Nairwolf> I don't understand what you're saying..
- # [02:11] <electriX> your code makes no sense
- # [02:11] <electriX> it should be like
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- # [02:15] <electriX> http://pastebin.com/DrsEBNwB
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- # [19:20] <benzrf> hi
- # [19:20] <benzrf> is there any element that has a width attribute in html5
- # [19:20] <es> yes...
- # [19:21] <es> give an example?
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- # [19:24] <benzrf> ?
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- # [19:24] <benzrf> wl
- # [19:24] <benzrf> *well
- # [19:25] <benzrf> i know that back in html 4, you could use width and height attributes to affect the size of elements, but nowadays that's done primarily through css
- # [19:25] <benzrf> and i was wondering if the html5 spec still defines width/height on any elements
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- # [19:43] <es> benzrf
- # [19:43] <es> what are you trying to style? divs? tables? etc
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- # [19:46] <dahlfors_> only special elements like img & canvas have width/height attributes
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- # [19:49] <es> dahlfors_: ... you can specicy width/height on a div too?.,,
- # [19:49] <es> ...8
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- # [19:58] <benzrf> im not trying to style anything
- # [19:58] <benzrf> just wondering if its a thing
- # [19:58] <benzrf> dahlfors_: kk
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- # [20:01] <dahlfors_> es: it might work in browsers, but it isn't valid html5
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- # [20:03] <es> yes it is...
- # [20:03] <es> divs didn't just evaporate when html5 came about
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- # [20:03] <es> sure you have <header> and <article> and stuff, but divs still exist
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- # [20:17] <dahlfors_> es: div is valid. but not the width/height attribute on divs
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