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- # [02:02] <CustomerSupport> is it good or bad practice to leave binary attributes without the boolean?
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- # [09:32] <kazumi-kun> Any one know of any good guides on ow to make a nice smooth HTML one pager site where it scrolls down
- # [09:32] <kazumi-kun> I can provide an example if needed
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- # [09:57] <wowaname> hi
- # [09:57] <wowaname> the multi-section ones?
- # [09:58] <wowaname> kazumi-kun i think a lot of those are pre-made but it's fairly easy to make your own if you know how
- # [09:58] <wowaname> i think it's easy without javascript too
- # [09:58] <kazumi-kun> Yeh the multi section ones
- # [09:58] <kazumi-kun> I would like to make my own to be fair
- # [09:58] <wowaname> ah
- # [09:58] <kazumi-kun> I'm very quick learner
- # [09:58] <wowaname> cool
- # [09:59] <kazumi-kun> any ideas on a good resource
- # [09:59] <wowaname> honestly i dont know specifically
- # [09:59] <wowaname> i use MDN usually
- # [09:59] <steedp3> is there a good way to use an io.Reader with the html/template library, currently I am doing an ioutil.ReadAll to dump everything in a buffer and then pass it to the template but I don't like that very much
- # [09:59] <wowaname> but that's because i've been playing with html/css since i was like ten years old
- # [10:00] <steedp3> is there a way I can pass the Reader directly to the template or something?
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- # [10:00] <wowaname> steedp3 no idea :/
- # [10:00] <steedp3> and have the template libarary do the copy when needed?
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- # [11:57] <steedp3> What is the point in calling Close() on "mime/multipart".Part ?
- # [11:57] <steedp3> All it does is discard the rest of the buffer
- # [11:58] <steedp3> https://tip.golang.org/src/mime/multipart/multipart.go?s=5582:5610#L192
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- # [12:17] <chilversc> am I right in thinking that currently there's no persistent storage available to web apps for large blobs of data, eg up to 1GB ?
- # [12:18] <chilversc> it looks like indexedDB is planned to have a persistent/temporary flag later, but has not yet been implemented
- # [12:18] <chilversc> and the file system api is chrome only, and looks like its going to be dropped
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- # [14:26] <youtubeisawesome> How many websites support HTML5?
- # [14:27] <oddmunds> 1000
- # [14:27] <youtubeisawesome> Is that sarcasm?
- # [14:27] <oddmunds> yes, sorry
- # [14:27] <oddmunds> do you mean how many are using html5 as doctype?
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- # [14:28] <youtubeisawesome> That, and how many use it's features in general
- # [14:29] <oddmunds> personally i have no idea, but i would assume that html5 is the default/defacto standard of all new things made on the web
- # [14:29] <youtubeisawesome> And how many websites still use the old HTML4?
- # [14:31] <oddmunds> i would assume that xhtml have a bigger share than html4
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- # [14:31] <youtubeisawesome> Does freenode still use HTML4?
- # [14:32] <oddmunds> this site? -> https://freenode.net
- # [14:33] <youtubeisawesome> Yes
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- # [14:33] <oddmunds> it uses html5, you can tell by the first line in the html source. ("view source" in your browser). it says <!DOCTYPE html> which tells the browser that it is html5
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- # [14:34] <youtubeisawesome> I would not be surprised
- # [14:35] <youtubeisawesome> But all of the websites from 2011 and eariler still use HTML4?
- # [14:35] <youtubeisawesome> The developers should really update those old websites
- # [14:37] <oddmunds> youtubeisawesome: i would think that most of them use xhtml
- # [14:37] <oddmunds> or some unspecified mix of things
- # [14:37] <youtubeisawesome> What do they use it for?
- # [14:37] <oddmunds> xhtml?
- # [14:37] <oddmunds> it was the newest standard for a very long time
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- # [14:37] <youtubeisawesome> Cause XHTML does not sound very recent of a technology
- # [14:38] <youtubeisawesome> It still is, why did they not update it?
- # [14:38] <oddmunds> they did update it
- # [14:38] <oddmunds> latest xhtml version is from 2014, i think
- # [14:38] <youtubeisawesome> Oh OK
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- # [14:39] <oddmunds> at least that is what wikipedia says. but that might be xhtml5 they are thinking of
- # [14:40] <youtubeisawesome> Can you have HTML5 pages just having <DOCTYPE html> in your code, and not put in any other tags?
- # [14:40] <youtubeisawesome> HTML5 specific tags
- # [14:42] <oddmunds> this channel is full of people who knows this better than me, but i would think that you need at least a html-tag and a head-tag for it to be valid html5
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- # [14:44] <dahlfors_> it's <!DOCTYPE html>. and yes, you don't need to use those new tags like aside, footer etc
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- # [14:44] <dahlfors_> just make sure that you don't use any of the deprecated elements
- # [14:45] <youtubeisawesome> No I was mot referring to basic tags like <head>, <title>, or <body>
- # [14:45] <oddmunds> looking at some validators here, it seems like you don't need head or body, but you need title and meta-charset to comply.
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- # [14:46] <dahlfors_> yes, you can omit head, title, body
- # [14:46] <dahlfors_> but most people use them
- # [14:47] <youtubeisawesome> You need the body tag for anything to sjpw up, and for the page to load
- # [14:48] <youtubeisawesome> Same goes for the head, otherwise, the browser could not process any scripts or CSS files
- # [14:50] <dahlfors_> no. you don't need the body tag for anything to show up
- # [14:50] <dahlfors_> but the title tag is at least needed if you leave out head and body
- # [14:51] <dahlfors_> <!DOCTYPE html><title>test page</title><p>this is a test</p> <-- this would be a valid html5 page
- # [14:51] <Ms2ger> Indeed
- # [14:51] <youtubeisawesome> Whst is the <aside> tag for? Does that have anything to do with alignment or margins?
- # [14:52] <Ms2ger> No
- # [14:52] <dahlfors_> I think the validators need a meta-tag for character-encoding as well
- # [14:52] <dahlfors_> but I don't think the spec requires that
- # [14:52] <youtubeisawesome> I'm sire it does
- # [14:52] <Ms2ger> It's best to have one anyway
- # [14:53] <youtubeisawesome> Especially when translating text on your site into different languages
- # [14:56] <dahlfors_> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#character-encoding << either with http header, unicode byte order mark character at start of file - or by using meta tag
- # [14:57] <dahlfors_> so, meta tag with charset is not needed. but it's usually a convenient way
- # [15:00] <youtubeisawesome> I say everybody should use UTF-8 as the encoding
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