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  1. # Session Start: Mon Oct 19 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  4. # [00:02] <Sendoushi> here i was checking rust and they have a html5 parser and wondering... why do one needs such thing? what really does a html5 parser do?
  5. # [00:03] <moo-_-> Sendoushi: do you know what parsers as generally do?
  6. # [00:03] <Sendoushi> from what i gather they... convert into something that "we" know of?
  7. # [00:03] <Sendoushi> maybe i'm completely wrong...
  8. # [00:04] <moo-_-> Sendoushi: do you know what's DOM tree?
  9. # [00:04] <Sendoushi> yes. i do.
  10. # [00:05] <moo-_-> Sendoushi: so yes
  11. # [00:05] <Sendoushi> i'm a front end developer. kind of a intermediate one i guess. still gathering more and more knowledge. even thinking on taking a computer science course or something
  12. # [00:05] <moo-_-> parser is what takes a text file and spits DOM tree out of it
  13. # [00:05] <Sendoushi> i see... ok
  14. # [00:05] <Sendoushi> so... a parser could use to build a virtual dom for example? or i'm way of?
  15. # [00:06] <Sendoushi> html parser
  16. # [00:06] <moo-_-> Sendoushi: well yes. In fact if you feed something to innerHTML in JS it needs to parse it
  17. # [00:06] <Sendoushi> yes now i get it
  18. # [00:06] <Sendoushi> innerHTML will make a parse inside
  19. # [00:07] <Sendoushi> it makes perfect sense
  20. # [00:08] <Sendoushi> it can be used to build a html renderer for example
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  365. # [15:35] <chilversc_> was there anything in the works to have better CDN support (e.g. elements such as script, link, img) accetping mulitple urls for the same resource to provide alternates?
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  368. # [15:37] <Sharaal> chilversc_: whats the use case? there is no common thing for cdns, but some specialized solutions e.g. from akamai to provide high optimized image delivering (e.g. depending on the device resolution and the connection speed)
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  371. # [15:38] <chilversc_> I was more thinking for fallback so that if the CDN is unavailable it fetches the resource from a different location
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  373. # [15:39] <chilversc_> I thought I'd seen some mention of it in the past
  374. # [15:46] <Sharaal> make sure the cdn is never unavailable
  375. # [15:47] <Sharaal> host self or with a provider you have a service contract with high availability
  376. # [15:48] <chilversc_> I was more thinking for very common libraries, to encourage more re-use of caches (eg jquery, angular, modernizr, bootstray, etc) but without completly relying on the CDN (often google's public cdn)
  377. # [15:48] <chilversc_> so that you get fallback to your own cdn or self hosted
  378. # [15:51] <Sharaal> fallbacks means high load time for the user till the fallbacks react
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  380. # [15:53] <Sharaal> for critical things I wouldn't use public cdns
  381. # [15:54] <chilversc_> yeah, though it just seems such a waste of bandwidth and caches to have every site providing its own copy of these very common libraries
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  384. # [15:58] <Sharaal> yes
  385. # [16:00] <Sharaal> but for ciritical things its needed, and if its critical and needs high performance, large cdn provider like akamai have solutions for that
  386. # [16:00] <Sharaal> but I think 99% of the websites doesn't need that
  387. # [16:01] <Sharaal> and there are some possible alternatives. e.g. if having landingpages for the user as entry points which are very small in js/css and preload the js/css things of the mainpage/client
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  492. # [18:37] <brav0> Good evening guys! :D
  493. # [18:37] <brav0> Anyone here able to help me a little bit with a little problem i have encountered!?
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  504. # [18:52] <brav0> I want to have moving images OVER my other div's/sections. If i click on the image, it needs to move out of the screen. I have done it like this now, but my browser resizes wich transforms my site for a second.
  505. # [18:52] <brav0> I think im coding it wrong, but im not sure
  506. # [18:52] <brav0> http://pastebin.com/6czbJe6g
  507. # [18:52] <brav0> The live preview is on www.confetti.nu/kieklechique
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  659. # [23:36] <unix_root> i need some help
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