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  1. # Session Start: Tue Sep 09 00:00:01 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
  3. # [00:05] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner&diff=0&oldid=28650 * TomMorris * (+201) updated with location based on hannah_monster's comment on upcoming.org
  4. # [00:06] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner&diff=0&oldid=28651 * TomMorris * (-1) attendees - name
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  8. # [00:17] <mfbot> [[ubiquity]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=ubiquity&diff=0&oldid=28652 * TobyInk * (+184) Microformats Extraction commands - updated cognition's ubiquity commands
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  17. # [02:22] <mfbot> [[location]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/location * Tantek * (+175) drafted
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  19. # [02:42] <mfbot> [[location-examples]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/location-examples * Tantek * (+1497) drafted with anecdotal notes from location-formats and LHC First Beam example
  20. # [02:43] <mfbot> [[location-brainstorming]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/location-brainstorming * Tantek * (+1039) extracted from location-formats and expanded
  21. # [02:44] <mfbot> [[location-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=location-formats&diff=0&oldid=28653 * Tantek * (-1427) split out examples and brainstorming to separate pages
  22. # [02:46] <mfbot> [[location-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=location-examples&diff=0&oldid=28654 * Tantek * (+17) nowiki escape example to preserve single quotes as text
  23. # [02:48] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-05-dconstruct-social-network-portability]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-05-dconstruct-social-network-portability&diff=0&oldid=28655 * Tantek * (+167) add some related blog posts and a photo link
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  27. # [03:18] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-05-dconstruct-social-network-portability]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-05-dconstruct-social-network-portability&diff=0&oldid=28656 * Tantek * (+59) another blog post that covered the event
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  47. # [10:39] <paulzag> help I'm reading the wiki, what is the correct way to indicate "reports-to" or "manager" of someone in an organizational context. is it done in hcard?
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  51. # [10:56] <paulzag> can an hcard have a "reports to" or "manager's name"?
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  53. # [11:05] <paulzag> vcard's use X-Manager does that work for hcard?
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  56. # [11:19] <tobyink> @paulzag: x-manager is just an app-specific extension.
  57. # [11:19] <tobyink> not proper vcard
  58. # [11:21] <tobyink> vcard 3.0 doesn't have a method of specifying someone's manager.
  59. # [11:22] <tobyink> vcard 4.0 does (the RELATED property), but hcard is based on vcard 3.0
  60. # [11:22] <tobyink> (and vcard 4.0 is still just a draft, so may change)
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  63. # [11:59] <mfbot> [[qr code]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/qr_code * Brian * (+736) stubbed QR Code page
  64. # [12:00] <mfbot> [[hcard-user-interface]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-user-interface&diff=0&oldid=28657 * Brian * (+38) added link to qrcodes and other 2d barcodes
  65. # [12:01] <mfbot> [[hcard-user-interface]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-user-interface&diff=0&oldid=28658 * Brian * (+1) wrong link to qr_code
  66. # [12:03] <mfbot> [[2d barcodes]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/2d_barcodes * Brian * (+185) stubbed page
  67. # [12:03] <mfbot> [[resources]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=resources&diff=0&oldid=28659 * Brian * (+6) moved to the more general 2d_barcodes
  68. # [12:04] <mfbot> [[pocket-cheat-sheet-feedback]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=pocket-cheat-sheet-feedback&diff=0&oldid=28660 * Brian * (+3) moved semacode to more general 2d barcode
  69. # [12:04] <mfbot> [[spread-microformats]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=spread-microformats&diff=0&oldid=28661 * Brian * (-24) moved semacode to more general 2d barcode
  70. # [12:05] <mfbot> [[Template:branding-see-also]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:branding-see-also&diff=0&oldid=28662 * Brian * (+6) moved semacode to more general 2d barcode
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  78. # [12:36] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=28664 * Tantek * (+34)
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  81. # [12:39] <mfbot> [[weekly-meetup]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=weekly-meetup&diff=0&oldid=28665 * Tantek * (+43) link tonight's dinner
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  84. # [13:10] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner&diff=0&oldid=28666 * Tantek * (+95) added Pownce URL, upcoming venue URL
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  86. # [13:12] <mfbot> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events&diff=0&oldid=28667 * Tantek * (+9) updated dinner location + URL, moved bcb3 to recent
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  89. # [13:23] <paulzag> tobyink: thanks for answering. sorry I was away for a bit. So at the moment there isn't a stardards-based microformats way of signifying someone's manager. But I can still capture that data in my database - just not publish it in a standards compliant way? Right?
  90. # [13:24] <tobyink> not right now. you can still publish it, and give it a semantic class name. just don't expect any parsers to pick it up.
  91. # [13:24] <tobyink> (yet)
  92. # [13:42] <paulzag> great thanks tobyink I'll start with it and eventually something should emerge
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  97. # [15:15] <mfbot> [[xfn-to-foaf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-to-foaf&diff=0&oldid=28668 * TobyInk * (-14) Updates reflecting experience parsing XFN in the wild.
  98. # [15:16] <mfbot> [[User:TorontoEscort]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/User:TorontoEscort * TorontoEscort * (+815) Toronto Escort,Toronto Escort Agency
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  118. # [17:00] <csarven> tobyink re: figure minimisation. What would be the difference between <img class="figure" alt="foo"> and <img alt="foo"> ? The minimisation in that case overlaps (redundant) with the general use of <img>. In other words, what would be the point of using class="figure" in that case? Perhaps we need to adjust the minimisation such that it doesn't overlap with the common use of <img>
  119. # [17:02] <tobyink> csarven: not 100% clear what you're asking. are you asking: should rule 4 be removed from minimisation?
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  121. # [17:10] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-09-london-meetup-dinner&diff=0&oldid=28671 * TomMorris * (-32) removing self - sorry folks, but I am having a lazy afternoon and don't really want to travel to London.
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  124. # [17:11] <csarven> Yes, I think Rule 4 needs to be adjusted. Perhaps if there is no legend, then it is not a valid figure. We've already indicated "legend +" perhaps this will clarify that
  125. # [17:12] <csarven> tobyink Yes, I suppose in other words, I'm saying that we should remove Rule 4.
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  127. # [17:13] <tobyink> yeah, I don't like rule 4 either. I think there were some people on one of the mailing lists who wanted something to do with alt in there. I'd be happy to remove it though - perhaps we should start an issues page and invite feedback on this?
  128. # [17:15] <csarven> Sounds good. Was Rule 4 added recently?
  129. # [17:15] <csarven> or updated with the @longdesc mention?
  130. # [17:18] <tobyink> it's been in there for a while, but I recently changed s/may/must/ - optional parser behaviour isn't a great idea unless there's very good reason
  131. # [17:18] <csarven> http://microformats.org/wiki?title=figure&diff=28640&oldid=28639
  132. # [17:20] <csarven> One publishing behaviour which might help by removing Rule 4 is that they can use <img class="figure"> but will not be recognised as a figure until class="legend" is added (which might be at a later date)
  133. # [17:30] <tobyink> yep - that was the recent change, but the alt rule has been there for longer. http://microformats.org/wiki?title=figure&diff=26397&oldid=26396
  134. # [17:39] <mfbot> [[xfn-to-foaf]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-to-foaf&diff=0&oldid=28672 * TobyInk * (+175) Related Pages - Add Richard Cyganiak's guide
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  136. # [18:04] <mfbot> [[product-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=product-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=28673 * JayMyers * (+202) Base Schema Elements -
  137. # [18:05] <mfbot> [[product-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=product-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=28674 * JayMyers * (+11) Base Schema Elements -
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  159. # [22:31] <mfbot> [[hresume-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hresume-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=28675 * FredericLavigne * (+124) New Examples -
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  170. # [23:30] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-weekly-meetup-dinner]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2008-09-09-weekly-meetup-dinner * MatthewLevine * (+4069) Added SF 2008-09-09 dinner
  171. # [23:35] <mfbot> [[rel-tag]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag&diff=0&oldid=28676 * Tretti * (+148) Examples in the Wild -
  172. # [23:40] <mfbot> [[events/2008-09-09-weekly-meetup-dinner]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=events/2008-09-09-weekly-meetup-dinner&diff=0&oldid=28677 * MatthewLevine * (+145) Added Upcoming/Pownce links
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  178. # Session Close: Wed Sep 10 00:00:00 2008

The end :)