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  1. # Session Start: Sat Oct 04 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  4. # [00:47] <mfbot> [[xfn-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-issues&diff=0&oldid=29729 * Chris Messina * (+342) added support to tantek's argument against gender in rel-values
  5. # [00:48] <mfbot> [[xfn-issues]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-issues&diff=0&oldid=29730 * Chris Messina * (+13)
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  27. # [06:30] <mfbot> [[hatom-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=29731 * Csarven * (+1307) User comment entries
  28. # [06:36] <mfbot> [[hatom-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=29732 * Csarven * (-5)
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  35. # [08:21] <mfbot> [[hatom-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=29733 * Csarven * (+1)
  36. # [08:22] <mfbot> [[hatom-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=29734 * Csarven * (+1)
  37. # [08:23] <csarven> Dang. Time to sleep. Can't read apparently.
  38. # [08:24] <mfbot> [[hatom-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hatom-brainstorming&diff=0&oldid=29735 * Csarven * (-2)
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  41. # [08:31] <Syrgjyn> hello all
  42. # [08:32] <Syrgjyn> perhaps this is not the right place to ask, but... are there any extensive resources for POSH?
  43. # [08:33] <Syrgjyn> all I can find are a few posts by Tantek in his log and a few articles in other people's blogs
  44. # [08:33] <Syrgjyn> not much, though...
  45. # [08:34] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/posh is a good index of resources
  46. # [08:34] <Syrgjyn> of course I've seen that :)
  47. # [08:34] <@tantek> the modern web design practice of semantic HTML predates the term POSH by many years and thus most of the resources don't mention POSH by name
  48. # [08:35] <@tantek> but you can find a lot by looking for "semantic HTML" or "semantic XHTML"
  49. # [08:35] <@tantek> high recommend reading thru all of Dan Cederholm's Simplequizzes
  50. # [08:35] <@tantek> http://simplebits.com/bits/simplequiz/
  51. # [08:35] <Syrgjyn> I've seen that too :)
  52. # [08:36] <Syrgjyn> I assume you are the original Tantek, right? :)
  53. # [08:36] <@tantek> AFAIK ;)
  54. # [08:37] <Syrgjyn> my pleasure! :)
  55. # [08:37] <Syrgjyn> "A Touch of Class" is an awesome post
  56. # [08:38] <@tantek> thanks very much Syrgjyn!
  57. # [08:38] <Syrgjyn> THAT's the kind of info I'd like to read
  58. # [08:38] <Syrgjyn> concise yet very informative
  59. # [08:38] <@tantek> this presentation has some examples too: http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/elementsofxhtml/
  60. # [08:39] <Syrgjyn> read that too ;)
  61. # [08:39] <Syrgjyn> I just haven't found any recent articles
  62. # [08:39] <Syrgjyn> not that the older ones aren't relevant... (they are)
  63. # [08:39] <Syrgjyn> but maybe I'm just a hungry mind :)
  64. # [08:40] <@tantek> most of the space of "semantic (x)html" was fairly well explored and understood in the early to mid 2000s.
  65. # [08:40] <Syrgjyn> so I've gathered
  66. # [08:40] <Syrgjyn> by the way, this is a nice article:
  67. # [08:40] <Syrgjyn> http://nascentguruism.com/journal/perfection
  68. # [08:40] <@tantek> the modern web design community started to run into the limits of what was possible, even cleverly so, around 2004
  69. # [08:40] <Syrgjyn> you might want to add that to the POSH blog posts index ;)
  70. # [08:41] <@tantek> it's good yes - feel free to add it to the wiki yourself too!
  71. # [08:42] <@tantek> and also, running into those limitations was one of the inspirations for microformats
  72. # [08:42] <Syrgjyn> I see
  73. # [08:44] <Syrgjyn> well, I have to login to make edits to the wiki... by the way, how do I choose a good WikiWord for my username?
  74. # [08:52] <Syrgjyn> hmm, I haven't seen step 6 and 7 of "7 steps to proper web authoring" detailed anywhere
  75. # [08:53] <Syrgjyn> the last one is step 5, as described in "A Touch of Class" and the microformats wiki
  76. # [08:53] <Syrgjyn> you know, the POSH Checklist
  77. # [09:06] <mfbot> [[posh]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=posh&diff=0&oldid=29736 * PiroDhima * (+94) Added a link to yet another blog post.
  78. # [09:06] <Syrgjyn> there :)
  79. # [09:07] <Syrgjyn> I wasn't sure what exactly to use for the description, so I just left the author name there. More intriguing this way :P
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  81. # [09:25] <WulfTheSaxon> Syrgjyn: I've got a list of blogs at http://channels.dal.net/webdev/recommendedreading.xhtml for, as you put it, "hungry mind[s]". I plan on eventually adding a couple extra sections for individual pages and books.
  82. # [09:28] <WulfTheSaxon> Although now that WaSP has list of books ( http://streetteam.webstandards.org/goodbooks ), I may end up scrapping the books section.
  83. # [09:29] <Syrgjyn> w00t!
  84. # [09:29] <Syrgjyn> thanks!
  85. # [09:29] <WulfTheSaxon> No problem :)
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  90. # [09:43] * WulfTheSaxon decides to quit being lazy and just check :P
  91. # [09:44] <@tantek> heh
  92. # [09:44] <@tantek> stopped logging into Orkut a while ago
  93. # [09:44] <@tantek> plus now anyone can join AFAIK so there is no need to be added by someone on Orkut.
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