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  74. # [16:31] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=29951 * James Tindall * (+169) permatime.com hcalendar usage and generator
  75. # [16:36] <mfbot> [[hcalendar-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcalendar-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=29952 * James Tindall * (+1) edit typo in permatime entry
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  131. # [21:21] <mfbot> [[Talk:mfcomment]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:mfcomment * Kx2H8i * (+13163)
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  136. # [22:38] <dietrich> is there a microformat for linking to "me elsewhere" links such as "my photos", "my music", "my links"?
  137. # [22:44] <dietrich> hm, rel="tag" explicitly says in the spec that it's not scoped to tag arbitrary URLs
  138. # [22:45] <dietrich> would like to do something like: <a rel="me" rel:tag="photos" href="http://flickr.com/photos/me">
  139. # [22:46] <dietrich> rel="me photos" ?
  140. # [23:01] <singpolyma> rel="me" is exactly for that
  141. # [23:05] <dietrich> singpolyma: sure, but it's singular
  142. # [23:05] <dietrich> my identity on the web is strewn across many sites
  143. # [23:06] <dietrich> so i'd like to qualify what kind of rel="me" link it is
  144. # [23:06] <dietrich> "my homepage" doesn't exist the way it used to
  145. # [23:06] <dietrich> i've got blog, flickr, twitter, last.fm, a bunch of social networks, a tumblog
  146. # [23:07] <dietrich> and on and on
  147. # [23:18] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=29955 * ConradJohnson * (+329) new example of hcard used to identify homes for sale and their location -
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  149. # [23:18] <singpolyma> dietrich: How singular? You can have as many rel=me links as you want
  150. # [23:19] <singpolyma> Best practise is to link to as many as possible/makes sense
  151. # [23:19] <dietrich> singpolyma: hrm, sorry "singular" was not clear.
  152. # [23:20] <dietrich> there's no way to categorise them
  153. # [23:20] <dietrich> see my use-case above
  154. # [23:20] <mfbot> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=0&oldid=29956 * ConradJohnson * (-25) new and uncategorized examples -
  155. # [23:20] <singpolyma> There's no known taxonomy. You're categorizing them as "yours"
  156. # [23:20] <singpolyma> what is the use-case for a crawler needing to know more?
  157. # [23:21] <@tantek> if you want to categorize or "tag" a link itself, use xfolk
  158. # [23:22] <dietrich> tantek: thanks, i'll check it out
  159. # [23:22] <singpolyma> @tantek: Hmm... good point, I'd forgotten about that one :)
  160. # [23:22] <dietrich> singpolyma: as i said above: "me" is the aggregate of multiple sets of disparate data
  161. # [23:23] <dietrich> both human readers and robots can make use of that
  162. # [23:23] <dietrich> i'd definitely like a crawler to discover my xfn relations photos
  163. # [23:23] <dietrich> "i had no idea Joe kept photos there!"
  164. # [23:23] <@tantek> dietrich - but rel-me itself solves only one problem, intentionally, aggregating your profiles/identities
  165. # [23:23] <@tantek> photos have nothing to do with that
  166. # [23:23] <@tantek> photos are orthogonal to identity in that regard
  167. # [23:24] <dietrich> so maybe rel="me" is not the right tool then?
  168. # [23:24] <@tantek> for photos no
  169. # [23:24] <@tantek> but for indicating here is another site where I put my stuff, yes
  170. # [23:24] <@tantek> and that kind of information (here is where my *photos* are) is also bad to put on links
  171. # [23:25] <@tantek> because the *destination* has more authority on that
  172. # [23:25] <@tantek> plenty of places where you put "stuff" let you put up many kinds of media
  173. # [23:25] <dietrich> tantek: so would a better approach be to point back from the destination?
  174. # [23:25] <@tantek> posts, photos, videos etc.
  175. # [23:25] <@tantek> not better, but symmetric
  176. # [23:26] <@tantek> ideally you should setup a rel-me hub and spokes of your sites
  177. # [23:26] <@tantek> rel-me requires symmetry
  178. # [23:26] <dietrich> how would i go about doing that?
  179. # [23:26] <@tantek> the "photo-ness" is a completely different discussion
  180. # [23:26] <@tantek> well most sites let you put in your "blog" or "home page" and then rel-me link to it
  181. # [23:27] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists#Services_with_XFN_rel.3D.22me.22_to_multiple_external_sites
  182. # [23:40] <mfbot> [[Talk:events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Talk:events/2006-06-13-where-2-bof * LfpHs5 * (+13239)
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