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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 17 00:00:01 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  4. # [00:12] <DanC> everywhere I turn I see "SEO". Is there a microformats story about search engine optimization? or at least a semantic HTML story about SEO?
  5. # [00:12] * DanC reads http://blog.usweb.com/archives/how-microformats-affect-search-engine-optimization-seo/ , google's nomination...
  6. # [00:13] <DanC> November 8th, 2006 . hmm. old, or classic?
  7. # [00:14] <DanC> not a terribly strong argument... "Let’s face it, one day search engines will have no choice but to take microformats into consideration and they will certainly benefit because of doing so."
  8. # [00:14] <@tantek> DanC - a classic.
  9. # [00:14] <@tantek> this is more recent: http://www.lyrishq.com/content/view/474/91/
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  11. # [00:16] <DanC> similar argument. "eventually it's bound to become another key indicator used by the search engines to determine relevance"
  12. # [00:18] <DanC> anybody here likely to go to web directions north? I gotta get myself to that ski trip. http://north.webdirections.org/program/ski-trip
  13. # [00:20] <DanC> browsing uf-discuss. hFoaf?! wierd. XFN and hCard seem to cover that space.
  14. # [00:21] <@tantek> DanC agreed
  15. # [00:22] <DanC> meanwhile, I see "hCalendar-Recurring Events Help " doesn't go away
  16. # [00:22] <DanC> toby's use of the wiki seems a little odd. (http://microformats.org/wiki/User:TobyInk/hcalendar-1.1 )
  17. # [00:24] * DanC hunts for recent news re dates and abbr/@title
  18. # [00:25] <DanC> hmm... http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-issues suggests it's closed in 2005
  19. # [00:26] <DanC> I saw several deployments stuck on this fairly recently
  20. # [00:27] <@tantek> DanC, yes, I've asked TobyInk to please add issues instead of trying to do his own revision which is a mix of resolving some things and adding other things
  21. # [00:28] <@tantek> why do you say hcalendar-issues suggests it's closed in 2005?
  22. # [00:28] <@tantek> see the TOC
  23. # [00:28] <@tantek> there are closed issues, resolved issues, and open issues
  24. # [00:28] <@tantek> they are in different sections
  25. # [00:29] <DanC> I went to hcalendar-issues and did a text-search for "abbr" and found myself under 2005 closed
  26. # [00:30] <@tantek> DanC, the abbr title stuff is a bit messy in general on the wiki and spread around a few pages
  27. # [00:30] <@tantek> It's been difficult to coral rational discussion and filter out the inevitable invectives that have been thrown about on the topic, since it touches on accessibility.
  28. # [00:31] * DanC can sympathize, after umpteen zillion msgs about img/@alt in html5
  29. # [00:36] * DanC finds the recur deely among the documented FAQ http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-faq#How_are_recurring_events_represented
  30. # [00:37] <@tantek> DanC, a few disparate wiki pages is far better than umpteen zillion messages, that's for sure.
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  32. # [00:37] <@tantek> Another example of email list fail
  33. # [00:39] <DanC> we have some wiki pages for img/@alt , but they're written without sufficient attention to NPOV.
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  35. # [00:39] <DanC> so they don't help much
  36. # [00:48] * DanC struggles to make sense of http://microformats.org/wiki/value-excerption-pattern-brainstorming ; hopes it doesn't have much to do with dates and abbr/@title
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  156. # [22:09] <zil> Did I miss anything or isn't it possible to register which email address the gravatar at the wiki uses?
  157. # [22:11] <zil> On another note, I've been thinking about what microformat I should use for lunch restaurant week menus and it seems to me that hListing might be the best fit. Any thoughts?
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  160. # [22:18] <@kingryan> it looks like we need to bring mfbot back to help us deal with all of this wiki spam
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  165. # [22:47] <benward_> kingryan: Yes, we could do with a better means of keeping up
  166. # [22:48] <benward_> I was thinking perhaps an IRC+XMPP bot might be desirable, given that people are hacking with XMPP more
  167. # [22:49] <benward_> But at this point I'll take whatever we can get
  168. # [22:49] <benward_> zil: There's no specific setting for your Gravatar email, it just uses the email address associated with your wiki account
  169. # [22:50] <zil> benward_: That's the problem.. I didn't register an email address
  170. # [22:51] <benward_> Ahh, I see
  171. # [22:51] <zil> Just username, password and real name
  172. # [22:51] <benward_> I think I need to sort out a default fallback image…
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  174. # [22:54] <zil> The hash is d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e, which is an md5 of nothing.. which probably is the expected value in the database
  175. # [22:55] <zil> s/expected//
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