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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 29 00:00:00 2008
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  10. # [02:57] * Topic is 'http://microformats.org/wiki/irc - if you are new here, add yourself to http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-people'
  11. # [02:57] * Set by tantek on Mon Apr 09 16:30:07
  12. # [02:57] #microformats url is http://microformats.org
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  14. # [05:04] <bofhcorp> ello?
  15. # [05:14] <manveru> oi
  16. # [05:19] <bofhcorp> okay so this channel is somewhat alive. =)
  17. # [05:20] <bofhcorp> I was hoping someone could help answer a question I have about hcard markup.
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  20. # [05:21] <bofhcorp> I looked through the docs but it does not seem if there anything that handles aliases in hcard
  21. # [05:21] <bofhcorp> i.e I would like to be able to specify an alternate name. alternate-name appears to be used for middle name.
  22. # [05:22] <bofhcorp> oops I meant additional-name.
  23. # [05:22] <csarven> Do you mean "nickname" ?
  24. # [05:24] <bofhcorp> I was under the impression that nickname was used for usernames
  25. # [05:25] <@tantek> there is additional-name
  26. # [05:25] <@tantek> can be used for middle names, etc.
  27. # [05:26] <bofhcorp> how about names in other languages?
  28. # [05:26] <bofhcorp> can I stuff say my name in chinese under a nickname class?
  29. # [05:27] <manveru> :)
  30. # [05:28] <@tantek> if it is your nickname, sure
  31. # [05:28] * manveru loves this question
  32. # [05:28] <manveru> bofhcorp: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues#2007
  33. # [05:30] <@tantek> manveru yes that's one of two major open issues on hCard right now
  34. # [05:31] <bofhcorp> manveru: thanks. looking at it now. my current markup seems to export okay to apple address book.
  35. # [05:31] <@tantek> current thinking is to enhance/extend the value excerption pattern to provide better ways of noting the type of phone etc.
  36. # [05:31] <@tantek> across languages
  37. # [05:33] <bofhcorp> maybe it might make sense to extend given-name and family-name under nickname
  38. # [05:34] <bofhcorp> as it stands right now AFAIK, I have no way of defining my name in english and chinese while enabling the extraction of given-name, family-name components.
  39. # [05:35] * manveru nods
  40. # [05:36] <manveru> some additional identifier for the language might be nice... or should every language be a completely different hcard?
  41. # [05:36] <@tantek> you can markup the language using the existing "lang" attribute in HTML
  42. # [05:37] <@tantek> add as many "additional-name" values as you want with their languages marked up with lang="..." accordingly
  43. # [05:37] <@tantek> always try to use semantic HTML first before even thinking of adding/proposing/extending microformats
  44. # [05:38] <@tantek> start here: http://microformats.org/wiki/posh
  45. # [05:38] <bofhcorp> so is addtional-name intended for middle names or can it be used for names in different lang?
  46. # [05:38] <@tantek> both
  47. # [05:40] <bofhcorp> so instead of using a fn optimization I should have 2 of class="n" lang="en" and class="n" lang="zh"
  48. # [05:46] <bofhcorp> hmm. ok, operator did not like that.
  49. # [05:47] <@tantek> no - pick one for your fn and n
  50. # [05:47] <@tantek> whichever is your primary use case
  51. # [05:47] <@tantek> like, what's on your passport?
  52. # [05:47] <@tantek> having to "pick a canonical name" is something you've had to do before microformats
  53. # [05:50] <bofhcorp> actually my passport shows it in chinese and english but I tend to use my english name
  54. # [06:17] <bofhcorp> alright. I'm happy with what I have for now. is there any work being done on obfuscation of email addresses or is that considered "publish at your risk"?
  55. # [06:19] <csarven> Emails are meant to be visible. If you don't want to be contacted, don't publish it.
  56. # [06:21] <csarven> http://csarven.ca/hiding-email-addresses has a collection of obfuscation methods for email address in the source. All of them have drawbacks. Use at your own discretion.
  57. # [06:24] <bofhcorp> thanks for the link.
  58. # [06:24] <bofhcorp> been a while since I played with this.
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