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  6. # [00:24] <bluesmoon> benward_: just point people to search.engine.com/?q=ben%20ward
  7. # [00:24] <bluesmoon> that can be your resume
  8. # [00:25] <gsnedders> bluesmoon: Such CVs can end up being rather long-winded though
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  29. # [03:23] <Politoed> hi there.
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  50. # [06:57] <Derek> Hello
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  54. # [07:25] <Derek> Hello?
  55. # [07:26] <Derek> Is anyone available to review my submission?
  56. # [07:34] <@tantek> URL?
  57. # [07:35] <Derek> http://microformats.org/wiki/projecta
  58. # [07:36] <@tantek> the submission is premature
  59. # [07:36] <Derek> i will continue to follow the process
  60. # [07:36] <@tantek> please see http://microformats.org/wiki/process
  61. # [07:36] <Derek> im sorry
  62. # [07:40] <@tantek> np Derek. you may also wish to read http://microformats.org/wiki/introduction and http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play
  63. # [07:41] <@tantek> and per http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page : "Before proposing any new microformats, make sure your website is POSH, uses existing microformats, and then read the process."
  64. # [07:41] <Derek> my apologies I will work on this now
  65. # [07:43] <Derek> by "your website" do you mean my wiki entry?
  66. # [07:46] <Derek> nvm
  67. # [07:58] <Derek> tantek are you available?
  68. # [07:59] <@tantek> your website meaning the sites *you* publish on the web.
  69. # [07:59] <Derek> I was wondering if I should further develop the existing /wiki/project entry or continue to develop the /wiki/projecta format I started
  70. # [07:59] <Derek> oh no I have already put POSH on my website
  71. # [08:01] <@tantek> better to further develop the existing /wiki/project entry, and move your /wiki/projecta proposal to a new section on /wiki/project-brainstorming, and delete the /wiki/projecta page.
  72. # [08:03] <Derek> okay
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  74. # [08:53] <Derek> am I allowed to change the current markup sample? for /wiki/project
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  81. # [10:52] <Derek> how do you delete wiki pages?
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  141. # [18:12] * gsnedders wonders what the pint of @rel=tag is
  142. # [18:15] * _fil_ offers a pint of beer to gsnedders
  143. # [18:15] * gsnedders facedesks
  144. # [18:15] <gsnedders> s/i/oi/
  145. # [18:16] <_fil_> I use relTag A LOT
  146. # [18:16] <_fil_> though not properly
  147. # [18:16] <gsnedders> What do you gain by having a URI for each tag?
  148. # [18:16] <_fil_> to agregate content
  149. # [18:16] <_fil_> well you can follow each tag on its own source
  150. # [18:17] <_fil_> if I agregate a twitter and a flickr feed
  151. # [18:17] <_fil_> the relTag will give me the tag "word" AND a link to see "more twitts on ..." or "more flicks on ..."
  152. # [18:17] <_fil_> both are useful
  153. # [18:17] <_fil_> and it's easy to dereference the tag if ou onl need the word
  154. # [18:18] <_fil_> (add Ys where necessary)
  155. # [18:18] <gsnedders> OK, sure, but take a look at hRésumé: how does having a skill as a URI help?
  156. # [18:18] <gsnedders> Is something like "Namespaces for XML" ambiguous? Does it really need a URI associated with it?
  157. # [18:18] <_fil_> you might have a database of hundreds of resumes
  158. # [18:19] <_fil_> and pages recapitulating all resumes that match "I know microformats"
  159. # [18:19] <_fil_> or that explain what this skill is
  160. # [18:19] <gsnedders> The people may have given different URIs. One might give http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-names, another might give http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_Namespaces
  161. # [18:19] <gsnedders> The presence of a URI hasn't helped.
  162. # [18:20] <_fil_> your database might generate the URIs itself
  163. # [18:20] <_fil_> in which case the tags will be coherent
  164. # [18:20] <_fil_> or not
  165. # [18:20] <gsnedders> But from what?
  166. # [18:20] <_fil_> form the words
  167. # [18:20] <_fil_> from the words
  168. # [18:20] <gsnedders> "Namespaces for XML" v. "XML Namespaces" — you still don't get uniqueness
  169. # [18:21] <_fil_> well if you require uniqueness you have to implement it somewhere else
  170. # [18:21] <_fil_> e.g. give a select menu listing all possible tags (or skills)
  171. # [18:21] <gsnedders> Well, for database querying in such ways you do need to require uniqueness. @rel='tag' doesn't help.
  172. # [18:22] <_fil_> indeed
  173. # [18:22] <_fil_> relTag is not a tool to enforce uniqueness
  174. # [18:22] <gsnedders> But how does it fulfil its use-case if it does not?
  175. # [18:22] <_fil_> you'll get your pint anyway :-)
  176. # [18:22] <gsnedders> s/if/when/
  177. # [18:23] <_fil_> you have lost me
  178. # [18:24] <gsnedders> How does @rel='tag' do what it aims to do when it cannot guarantee one identifier per object?
  179. # [18:26] <_fil_> I see no mention of a specific aim on http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag, except visibly tagging content
  180. # [18:27] <_fil_> a delicious bookmarklet could scrape the relTag on a page to pre-fill the tags line
  181. # [18:28] <_fil_> => dereferencing
  182. # [18:37] <@Phae> what're you guys talking about?
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  199. # [22:42] <Derek> Hello, I was wondering how to delete a wiki page?
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