/irc-logs / freenode / #microformats / 2009-03-16 / end

Options:

  1. # Session Start: Mon Mar 16 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
  3. # [00:06] * Joins: dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  4. # [00:06] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dglazkov
  5. # [00:27] * Quits: @dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  6. # [01:51] * Joins: shigeta (n=shigeta@124.32.114.226)
  7. # [01:52] * Quits: @Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk)
  8. # [01:55] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  9. # [01:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  10. # [02:03] <KevBurnsJr> well, there's the link tag http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#h-12.3
  11. # [02:03] <KevBurnsJr> <link rel="Next" href="chapter3.html" />
  12. # [02:03] <KevBurnsJr> lives in the head
  13. # [02:04] <Soleone> lives in the head?
  14. # [02:04] <KevBurnsJr> This element defines a link. Unlike A, it may only appear in the HEAD section of a document, although it may appear any number of times. Although LINK has no content, it conveys relationship information that may be rendered by user agents in a variety of ways (e.g., a tool-bar with a drop-down menu of links).
  15. # [02:05] <Soleone> why not use the normal <a> tag with a rel=next?
  16. # [02:06] <Soleone> i thought that was the purpose of microformats. to use the normal content, but add some additional info to it (like the information that this link leads to the "next" page)
  17. # [02:08] <KevBurnsJr> well, you're only going to have at most 1 url for any page which denotes the next page in the sequence
  18. # [02:08] <Soleone> yes
  19. # [02:09] <KevBurnsJr> and there's already a way to express that in HTML
  20. # [02:09] <Soleone> what do you mean?
  21. # [02:09] <Soleone> there's no way to automatically extract that information from a html page right?
  22. # [02:09] <KevBurnsJr> of coure there is
  23. # [02:10] <KevBurnsJr> you extract it from the head
  24. # [02:10] <KevBurnsJr> instead of the bdoy
  25. # [02:10] <Soleone> hm i don't know what you mean
  26. # [02:10] <KevBurnsJr> The link tag specifies a number of relationships http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#type-links
  27. # [02:10] <Soleone> how is there any info in the head that denotes the next page? maybe the previous okay (referer)
  28. # [02:11] <Soleone> oh nice
  29. # [02:11] <KevBurnsJr> not the header
  30. # [02:11] <KevBurnsJr> the head
  31. # [02:11] <Soleone> i haven't though that
  32. # [02:11] <KevBurnsJr> the head of the document
  33. # [02:11] <Soleone> yea sry
  34. # [02:12] <Soleone> but in order to do that you have to add stuff to the head of the html page. but it's for more easy for users generating content to just add something like rel="next" to a link that is there anyway
  35. # [02:12] <Soleone> when you also add the link to the head it's a bit duplicated information
  36. # [02:13] <Soleone> but anyways it's interesting that the link element can already be used like that, i didn't know that
  37. # [02:16] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  38. # [02:21] <KevBurnsJr> Soleone: http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-faq
  39. # [02:21] <KevBurnsJr> interesting read
  40. # [02:21] <Soleone> thx
  41. # [02:25] <Soleone> that amplifies my feelings for a need of <a rel="next"> though :)
  42. # [02:30] * Quits: Leaving (i=utapyngo@unaffiliated/leaving) (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
  43. # [02:30] <KevBurnsJr> :)
  44. # [02:30] <KevBurnsJr> there's a lot of rels out there http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values
  45. # [02:31] <Soleone> true...
  46. # [02:33] <Soleone> so next and previous are already listed there, but I guess only the standard HTML version for link
  47. # [02:34] <Soleone> yea...
  48. # [02:35] <Soleone> damn, if it wouldn't take so long to write a specification draft for this small thing, i'd to it myself, as I feel it's really useful. maybe someday in the future
  49. # [02:42] * Joins: Leaving (i=utapyngo@the.matrix.still.hasyou.com)
  50. # [02:49] * Joins: csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca)
  51. # [03:21] * Quits: KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-210-155-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) ("peas")
  52. # [03:50] * Joins: dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  53. # [03:50] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dglazkov
  54. # [04:11] * Quits: Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-151.cpe.netcabo.pt) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  55. # [04:13] * Parts: Soleone (n=soleone@CPE001e527d7ab0-CM001bd71325c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
  56. # [04:44] * Quits: @dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  57. # [05:02] * Joins: dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  58. # [05:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dglazkov
  59. # [05:21] * Joins: Politoed (i=Sholsest@a83-132-233-151.cpe.netcabo.pt)
  60. # [05:37] * Quits: csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) ("Leaving.")
  61. # [06:07] * dglazkov is now known as dglazkov|afk
  62. # [06:17] * Joins: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  63. # [06:26] * Quits: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  64. # [06:26] * Joins: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  65. # [06:56] * Quits: @dglazkov|afk (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  66. # [07:05] * Quits: hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105)
  67. # [07:14] * Quits: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  68. # [07:17] * Joins: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  69. # [07:20] * Quits: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  70. # [07:20] * Joins: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  71. # [08:10] * Joins: BenWard (n=benward@32.169.81.45)
  72. # [08:10] * Quits: BenWard (n=benward@32.169.81.45) (Client Quit)
  73. # [08:10] * Quits: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  74. # [08:10] * Joins: pesla (n=retep@procurios.xs4all.nl)
  75. # [08:11] * Joins: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  76. # [08:20] * Quits: Derek (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
  77. # [09:52] * Joins: MrTopf (n=cs@p5B395B25.dip.t-dialin.net)
  78. # [10:01] * Joins: Prometheus (n=promethe@unaffiliated/prometheus)
  79. # [10:23] * Joins: Ketsuban (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com)
  80. # [10:40] * Joins: ntoll (n=ntoll@85.210.66.47)
  81. # [10:42] * Joins: georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-175-64.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net)
  82. # [11:43] * Joins: emrojo (n=emrojo@163.117.139.88)
  83. # [13:30] * Quits: shigeta (n=shigeta@124.32.114.226) ("Leaving...")
  84. # [13:40] * Joins: Ketsuban_ (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com)
  85. # [13:40] * Quits: Ketsuban (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) (Nick collision from services.)
  86. # [13:40] * Ketsuban_ is now known as Ketsuban
  87. # [13:46] * Quits: Ketsuban (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) ("The creature experiences a pain equivalent to twelve standard units of scientific internationally-agreed-upon discomfort.")
  88. # [13:59] * Quits: emrojo (n=emrojo@163.117.139.88) ("Leaving.")
  89. # [14:18] <_fil_> is lukearno here?
  90. # [14:19] <_fil_> I'm experiencing "Could not parse sourcetree." errors on hatom2atom
  91. # [14:21] * Joins: myakura (n=myakura@p1063-ipbf3305marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp)
  92. # [14:47] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  93. # [14:47] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  94. # [14:48] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65) (Client Quit)
  95. # [15:21] * Joins: hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105)
  96. # [15:24] * Joins: dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  97. # [15:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dglazkov
  98. # [15:37] * Quits: @dglazkov (n=dglazkov@c-98-207-88-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  99. # [16:00] * Quits: Prometheus (n=promethe@unaffiliated/prometheus) ("⏏")
  100. # [16:36] * Joins: dglazkov (n=dglazkov@nat/google/x-37a31599ebf6ec3e)
  101. # [16:36] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dglazkov
  102. # [16:47] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  103. # [16:48] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  104. # [17:01] * Joins: KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-234-223-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  105. # [17:05] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  106. # [17:42] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@198.214.235.51)
  107. # [17:42] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  108. # [17:49] * Quits: myakura (n=myakura@p1063-ipbf3305marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) ("Leaving...")
  109. # [17:52] * Quits: KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-234-223-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) ("PHP is getting more dynamic.")
  110. # [17:54] * Joins: leahculver (n=leahculv@204.9.180.30)
  111. # [18:04] * Quits: pesla (n=retep@procurios.xs4all.nl) ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )")
  112. # [18:05] * Joins: csarven (n=csarven@modemcable150.182-202-24.mc.videotron.ca)
  113. # [18:24] * Joins: Ketsuban (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com)
  114. # [18:35] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@198.214.235.51)
  115. # [18:50] * Joins: KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-210-155-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  116. # [19:16] * Joins: themattharris (n=thematth@198.214.235.51)
  117. # [19:18] * Joins: KevBurns (n=kevburns@c-98-210-155-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
  118. # [19:18] * Quits: themattharris (n=thematth@198.214.235.51) (Client Quit)
  119. # [19:25] * Quits: KevBurnsJr (n=kevburns@c-98-210-155-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
  120. # [19:28] * Joins: georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-80-3-169-157.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net)
  121. # [19:29] * Quits: georgebrock_ (n=georgebr@client-80-3-169-157.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) (Client Quit)
  122. # [19:30] * Joins: Amorphous (i=jan@unaffiliated/amorphous)
  123. # [19:31] * Joins: leahculver_ (n=leahculv@204.9.180.30)
  124. # [19:31] * Quits: leahculver (n=leahculv@204.9.180.30) (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  125. # [19:36] * Quits: georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-175-64.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
  126. # [19:42] * Quits: hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105)
  127. # [20:20] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  128. # [20:20] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  129. # [20:43] * Joins: Hey_neken (n=kaxero@215.Red-213-96-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
  130. # [20:44] * Joins: broheem (n=broheem@72.16.138.81)
  131. # [20:46] * Quits: MrTopf (n=cs@p5B395B25.dip.t-dialin.net)
  132. # [20:48] * KevBurns is now known as KevBurnsJr
  133. # [21:14] * Quits: connolly_ (n=connolly@65.30.33.22) (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
  134. # [21:14] * Quits: ntoll (n=ntoll@85.210.66.47)
  135. # [21:15] * Quits: broheem (n=broheem@72.16.138.81) ("Leaving...")
  136. # [21:25] * leahculver_ is now known as leahculver
  137. # [21:26] * Joins: connolly_ (n=connolly@65.30.33.22)
  138. # [21:45] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@12.14.133.65)
  139. # [21:48] * Joins: hustin (n=hustin@host119.72.248.68.conversent.net)
  140. # [21:50] <Ketsuban> ping
  141. # [21:59] * Joins: Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk)
  142. # [21:59] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Phae
  143. # [22:07] * Quits: hustin (n=hustin@host119.72.248.68.conversent.net) (Connection timed out)
  144. # [22:08] * Quits: Ketsuban (n=Ketsuban@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust479.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) ("The creature experiences a pain equivalent to twelve standard units of scientific internationally-agreed-upon discomfort.")
  145. # [22:11] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@66.194.95.217)
  146. # [22:11] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  147. # [22:13] * Joins: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net)
  148. # [22:36] * Quits: @tantek (n=tantek@66.194.95.217)
  149. # [22:44] * Quits: Derek__ (n=Crojecta@adsl-3-128-181.mia.bellsouth.net) ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]")
  150. # [23:02] * Joins: tantek (n=tantek@66.194.95.217)
  151. # [23:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o tantek
  152. # [23:26] * Quits: @Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk)
  153. # [23:28] * Joins: Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk)
  154. # [23:28] * Quits: Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) (Client Quit)
  155. # [23:30] * Joins: Phae (n=phaeness@82-35-172-17.cable.ubr01.mort.blueyonder.co.uk)
  156. # [23:30] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Phae
  157. # [23:32] * Joins: tobyink (n=tai@77.89.160.246)
  158. # [23:43] * Quits: Hey_neken (n=kaxero@215.Red-213-96-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
  159. # [23:46] * Parts: tobyink (n=tai@77.89.160.246) ("Leaving")
  160. # [23:51] * Joins: hustin (n=hustin@67.244.246.105)
  161. # [23:54] * Joins: georgebrock (n=georgebr@client-80-3-173-212.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net)
  162. # Session Close: Tue Mar 17 00:00:00 2009

The end :)