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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 14 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  4. # [00:04] <EnCuKou> Hello. I'm trying to mark up scientific conferences with hCalendar. Does anyone know what class should I use for the authors of each talk? I haven't found anything on the Wiki, and I'm a bit confused by the RFC (English isn't my native language).
  5. # [00:08] <mfbot> No1 1000 edited hatom-examples-in-wild "/* 0.1 hAtom examples */ " (+82) http://is.gd/zBmj
  6. # [00:15] <singpolyma> EnCuKou: "talk author" is not a property of an event
  7. # [00:15] <singpolyma> I would just mark them up as hCards, separately from the hCal event
  8. # [00:21] <EnCuKou> singpolyma, thanks. The problem is that the authors (maybe speakers is a better description) are tied pretty closely to the talk – it doesn't make sense to separate them. Is there no standard way to tie them together?
  9. # [00:21] <EnCuKou> See for example: http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/harold.somers/coling/programme.html
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  13. # [00:27] <singpolyma> EnCuKou: there is no microformat for "talks". If there were it would make sense
  14. # [00:27] <singpolyma> You could use some POSH to tie them together, but I don't think there's a microformat that matches
  15. # [00:30] <EnCuKou> singpolyma, Okay, thanks again. That's just what I wanted to know. I'll use a non-standard class name.
  16. # [00:35] * @tantek rejoins and catches up re: "talks"
  17. # [00:36] <@tantek> EnCuKou - there is some hCalendar brainstorming that shows how to list attendees of an event as hCards
  18. # [00:37] <@tantek> though the you want to indicate a stronger semantic that the person is giving the talk, at least listing them as an explicit attendee is part way there
  19. # [00:39] <@tantek> EnCuKou there are some rough notes on how to do this here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-brainstorming#hCard_attendees
  20. # [00:45] <@tantek> quite rough indeed, needing some updating to use new wiki2 features and value-class-pattern too
  21. # [00:48] <EnCuKou> tantek, thanks. I'll try follow that, and keep an eye on changes.
  22. # [00:49] <mfbot> Tantek edited value-class-pattern "added short URL and blog post" (+125) http://is.gd/zBRt
  23. # [01:07] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcalendar-brainstorming "/* hCard attendees */ updated to start with a simpler example, use more readable code markup and [[value-class-pattern]] instead of abbr" (+1205) http://is.gd/zC5E
  24. # [01:08] <@tantek> EnCuKou no problem, take another look at http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-brainstorming#hCard_attendees
  25. # [01:08] <@tantek> it should be much more readable now
  26. # [01:10] <mfbot> Tantek edited machine-data "/* hCalendar */ note "role" subproperty of "attendee" property of hCalendar and link to example of markup using value-title " (+203) http://is.gd/zC7G
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  28. # [01:21] <EnCuKou> tantek, it is. I'll mark up the speaker with class="attendee vcard speaker", and follow the wiki examples otherwise.
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  30. # [01:22] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcard-singular-properties "link to new to be created page to attach it to the flow" (+66) http://is.gd/zCg6
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  37. # [01:51] <mfbot> Tantek created hcalendar-singular-properties "drafted based on answering a few questions in #whatwg" http://is.gd/zCAZ
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  42. # [01:58] <mfbot> Tantek edited Template:hcalendar-related-pages "link to freshly drafted/stubbed hCalendar singular properties" (+132) http://is.gd/zCFH
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  45. # [02:01] <mfbot> Tantek edited hcalendar-brainstorming "collect to-do to update source examples to use source=html4strict" (+96) http://is.gd/zCH7
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  50. # [02:33] <mfbot> WillNorris edited Template:hcard-related-pages "added hcard-and-pages as a related hcard page" (+125) http://is.gd/zD1P
  51. # [02:34] <mfbot> WillNorris edited Template:hcard-related-pages "fix name of hcards-and-pages" (+1) http://is.gd/zD2E
  52. # [02:34] <@tantek> willnorris - be sure to take a look at representative hCards
  53. # [02:35] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard
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  146. # [11:35] <mhausenblas> hi there. can anyone point me to a resource where microformats IPR issues are collected, please?
  147. # [11:36] <mhausenblas> I'd need to tell a client under which license mf are available
  148. # [11:42] * mhausenblas wondering if this is such a stupid question or there is no answer to it ;)
  149. # [11:53] <@adactio> Nearly everything is public domain. More info here: http://microformats.org/blog/2007/12/29/making-open-standards-as-open-as-possible/
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  151. # [12:23] <mhausenblas> thanks adactio
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  153. # [12:24] * mhausenblas notes that this is precisely what I was looking for
  154. # [12:24] <mhausenblas> nevertheless it is hard to find. I was unable to find it from e.g. the front page
  155. # [12:25] <mhausenblas> please, dear mf admins think about linking from it the main page
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  157. # [13:21] <tobyink> mhausenblas: See also my recent message to uf-discuss (towards the tail end of April IIRC) about CC-BY-ND encumbrances for XFN and XMDP.
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  160. # [13:31] <tobyink> ... which is still unresolved.
  161. # [13:41] <mhausenblas> ta tobyink ;)
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