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  113. # [18:12] <mkaply> Does anyone know why Google Maps has great vcards in multiple results - http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=roaring+fork&near=Leander,+TX&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&view=text&ei=SPyXSrvlH-STtgfs0YjTBA&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=4
  114. # [18:12] <mkaply> but junk microformats for an individual
  115. # [18:13] <mkaply> address - http://maps.google.com/maps?q=10850+Stonelake+Boulevard,%20TX,%20Austin
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  128. # [19:22] <mkaply> So this is wrong, right?
  129. # [19:22] <mkaply> <SPAN title="2009-03-20" class="dtend">20</SPAN>, at <SPAN class="location">
  130. # [19:22] <mkaply> Las Vegas, NV</SPAN>
  131. # [19:23] <mkaply> doesn't it have to have value-title?
  132. # [19:24] <mkaply> Can someone please implement some thorough testcases on this stuff? Specs are worthless without valid/invalid tests
  133. # [19:27] <singpolyma> mkaply: Yes, that's always been wrong I think. It's wrong even with class="value-title"
  134. # [19:27] <singpolyma> <span class="dtend"><span class="value-title" title="2009-03-20"> </span> 20</span>
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  154. # [21:08] * mkaply doesn't understand why when people write articles about microformats, they don't put live microformats in the article :)
  155. # [21:08] <@tantek> mkaply - often the content author is not the same as the web site publisher
  156. # [21:08] <mkaply> tantek: I'm thinking of blog posts.
  157. # [21:09] <@tantek> heh - that's worse :)
  158. # [21:09] <mkaply> blog posts that explain value-title should make the demos live
  159. # [21:09] <@tantek> it's like how come people that do conferences about the latest in web technology don't actually use the web technology themselves in their conference sites - never understood that
  160. # [21:09] <@tantek> (seems like an obvious credibility gap)
  161. # [21:10] <@tantek> mkaply - the MIX online article?
  162. # [21:10] <mkaply> tantek: I was looking at this one
  163. # [21:10] <mkaply> http://www.ablognotlimited.com/articles/getting-semantic-with-microformats-part-8-value-class-pattern/
  164. # [21:10] <@tantek> oh emily's
  165. # [21:14] <@tantek> mkaply, I asked her to include the code examples as inline code as well: http://www.ablognotlimited.com/articles/getting-semantic-with-microformats-part-8-value-class-pattern/#comment6
  166. # [21:17] <mkaply> I have a bug against Operator to handle BC dates. That's invalid, right? ISO can't represent BC dates?
  167. # [21:17] <mkaply> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478066
  168. # [21:19] <mkaply> And one more operator opinion question - I'm going to switch it so that everytime it hits a web page, it does so in a new tab. Is there anyone that would complain about that? Should I make it a pref?
  169. # [21:25] <@tantek> re: BC dates - related, there have been some issues/questions about hCalendar and vague/historical dates - I've resolved them as out of scope.
  170. # [21:25] <@tantek> mkaply - what do you mean by "hits a web page"?
  171. # [21:26] <mkaply> tantek: like any time it does a web thing. Like right now if you add a yahoo contact, it replaces the existing web page by default. I'm going to make it open a new tab by default
  172. # [21:26] <@tantek> oh that sounds like a good idea - so the user doesn't lose their context
  173. # [21:26] <@tantek> btw re: BC dates in hCalendar: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-issues-closed#historical-dates
  174. # [21:27] <@tantek> in short - tell anyone who asks to please contribute towards the development of a history microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/history
  175. # [21:39] <@benward> mkaply Not sure about the new tab behaviour. Rather than a pref, it strikes me it should just respond the the usual Option+Click/Middle click modifiers to act in a new context?
  176. # [21:39] <mkaply> benward: it does. Buy most people have no idea about that. They expect it to default to a new tab
  177. # [21:40] <mkaply> the firefox prefs to mess with that behavior are completely hidden.
  178. # [21:40] <mkaply> And the ones used by chrome (bookmarks, etc.) are separate from the ones used for web pages.
  179. # [21:40] <mkaply> What I thought was that I could default to new tab and add a pref to change it back if people hate it
  180. # [21:40] <@benward> tantek wiki/history is already taken by the history of microformats page
  181. # [21:41] <@tantek> oh wait I thought there was some disambig
  182. # [21:42] <@benward> /wiki/history just redirects to history of microformats. There is disambiguation as well, but that's separate
  183. # [21:42] <@tantek> ah thanks - will fix
  184. # [21:47] <@tantek> ok, created http://microformats.org/wiki/history-effort
  185. # [21:47] <@tantek> and link fixed in closed issues
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  190. # [23:14] <mkaply> so if dtend is just a time, infer date from dtstart?
  191. # [23:24] <madness> tantek: I'm starting to put together principles-examples
  192. # [23:24] <mkaply> madness: he left
  193. # [23:24] <madness> whoops, duh
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