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  1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 13 00:00:00 2009
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  18. # [02:30] <CloCkWeRX> hey mkaply, woo re new operator release. unfortunately, I can't get http://products.freebaseapps.com/view?id=/en/amethyst_aura_barbie to parse the rdfa (and i have no idea how to go about debugging)
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  43. # [05:27] <Atamido> Ooh, the Operator add-on for Firefox just got some good updating.
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  132. # [23:10] <mkaply> This isn't valid, right?
  133. # [23:10] <mkaply> <SPAN title="2010-03-03T20:3000" class="value-title dtstart">08:30pm (Wed)</SPAN>
  134. # [23:10] <mkaply> the values and value-titles have to be children of the dtstart
  135. # [23:10] <singpolyma> Right
  136. # [23:10] <singpolyma> <span class="dtstart><span class="value-title> </span> Stuff</span>
  137. # [23:11] <mkaply> that's what I thought
  138. # [23:11] <mkaply> <span class="dtstart><SPAN title="2010-03-03T20:3000" class="value-title">08:30pm (Wed)</SPAN></span> would be ok too, right?
  139. # [23:12] <singpolyma> I don't think so
  140. # [23:12] <singpolyma> I think it must contain exactly one whitespace character, according to current spec
  141. # [23:12] <mkaply> ah. ok
  142. # [23:14] <mkaply> interesting. In the example on http://microformats.org/wiki/value-excerption-value-title-test#hCal.231:_An_hCalendar_dtstart , the span is empty
  143. # [23:15] <singpolyma> Hmm. I thought that was not allowed, although there has been some mailing list discussion about that recently
  144. # [23:15] <tobyink> The original plan was for them to be empty.
  145. # [23:15] <tobyink> But someone pointed out that tidy strips out empty elements, so the plan was changed for them to contain a space character.
  146. # [23:16] <tobyink> But now someone's pointed out that tidy still strips them out.
  147. # [23:16] <mkaply> great. What was the reason for not allowing them to contain text?
  148. # [23:16] <mkaply> like my second example?
  149. # [23:17] <tobyink> To avoid the tooltip from being visible at all. (Which seems at odds with microformats visibility principles.)
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  151. # [23:19] <mkaply> do all browsers display the title of a span as the tooltip?
  152. # [23:19] <tobyink> All graphical browsers with significant market share on the desktop.
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