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  94. # [16:00] <abernier> hi chan
  95. # [16:02] <abernier> I've now have a bookshelf http://abernier.name/books/ and I'd like to make a feed of it, so people can subscribe to my shelf... I thought to do it with hatom, but the problem is I don't want to make any other information appear on my shelf, especially a published/updated date which seems required with hatom... what is my solution to do this without any published/updated date?
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  114. # [21:22] -ChanServ- [#microformats] Welcome to #microformats. Logs at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats
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  116. # [21:22] <vensilver> dude what is going on let me know too
  117. # [21:22] <danbri> tobyink, but it becomes a think we can annotate with other info (eg. links to wikipedia or skos topics)
  118. # [21:22] <danbri> s/think/thing/
  119. # [21:22] <tobyink> Better results from <h1><img class="fn org" src=foo alt="My Company Name"></h1>
  120. # [21:22] <TabAtkins> tobyink: Thanks, that's doable for me
  121. # [21:23] <tobyink> danbri, be we can annotate the people with skos/dbpedia/etc anyway - why indirection via a group? (other than possible conciseness)
  122. # [21:24] <danbri> conciseness
  123. # [21:25] <danbri> and consistency
  124. # [21:25] <vensilver> tobyink can u tell what are you speaking about
  125. # [21:26] <tobyink> I don't think there's *that* much conciseness benefit. Assuming a group has one common interest, for every { ?person foaf:interest ?thing } triple you save, you gain a { ?group foaf:member ?person } triple.
  126. # [21:26] <tobyink> vensilver: about http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/FOAFLists
  127. # [21:29] <danbri> if i have a group of 50 ex-joost staff, in stead of 50x foaf:interest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_television i just assert it once, for the group
  128. # [21:29] <danbri> and we could s/interest/expertise/ etc
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  130. # [21:31] <danbri> so reducing some repetition, since we can say other things at the group level too (workplaceHomepage <http://www.joost.com/> etc)
  131. # [21:32] <danbri> but also distributing responsibility; you can have one party describe the group; and another add people to it eg via twitter/identica lists
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  134. # [21:35] <tobyink> But if you have [ a foaf:Group ; foaf:workplaceHomepage <http://www.joost.com/> ; foaf:member ... ] then you miss out picking up all those individuals in, say, SPARQL queries looking for people with foaf:workplaceHomepage <http://www.joost.com/>.
  135. # [21:35] <danbri> danc, http://dig.csail.mit.edu/auth/breadcrumbs
  136. # [21:35] <danbri> via http://web.archive.org/web/20071212231713/http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/206
  137. # [21:35] <danbri> but its nearly empty
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  139. # [21:37] <danbri> tobyink, you're assuming anyone will bother creating the data at the individual level
  140. # [21:38] <danbri> whereas generating it from the group is pretty trivial (no fancy logic stuff needed)
  141. # [21:38] <tobyink> Perhaps a POWDER-like solution? POWER allows you to make the same set of statements about a bunch of different resources.
  142. # [21:38] <danbri> lists are also nice for making venn diagram- style compositions, to use in filtering info views (eg. inbox, twitter, feed readers)
  143. # [21:39] <danbri> yes, i have been hassling leigh dodds and danja to patch POWDER support into Leigh's crawler, so you could have it assert "everyone whose openid is http://microformats.org/team/*" is in xyz-list
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  168. # [23:28] <lgonze> Is there an hAudio editor?
  169. # [23:31] <lgonze> A paralle to the hCard creator is what I'm thinking of. Something to generate embeddable HTML.
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