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  57. # [15:26] <_ivc> anyone else have issues with the jquery site, css doesnt load from static.jquery.com
  58. # [15:26] <_ivc> http://jquery.com/
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  62. # [16:19] <mwunsch> Just announced Prism on microformats-discuss. I guess that makes it 'official'
  63. # [16:30] <@Phae> just got the mail
  64. # [16:38] <mwunsch> :-)
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  80. # [19:25] <@tantek> mwunsch - congrats!
  81. # [19:25] <@tantek> feel free to also send an email to microformats-dev - as that's where a lot more programmer types are likely to be hanging out and reading
  82. # [19:25] <mwunsch> tantek: thank you. still lots more to do. submitting a proposal today for Gotham Ruby Conference to talk about microformats, posh, and prism
  83. # [19:26] <mwunsch> Okay, will do, thanks
  84. # [19:26] <@tantek> excellent
  85. # [19:26] <@tantek> and since you're on IRC pretty regularly, invite folks on microformats-dev to join you here on #microformats also for discussions
  86. # [19:27] <@tantek> TobyInk - who recently announced his updated Perl microformats parser - is here pretty regularly too.
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  88. # [19:32] <mwunsch> Will do!
  89. # [19:37] <@tantek> thanks mwunsch - there's definitely several projects I know of going on that I'm going to recommend Prism for
  90. # [19:37] <@tantek> lots of folks building things with Ruby these days it seems
  91. # [19:40] <mwunsch> great
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  99. # [22:16] <ITrace> Is this a good channel to handle ICS file issues?
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  101. # [22:40] <ITrace> I'm trying to format calendar appointments, but I'm having trouble with the date times. In testing some people have said that the time is off by 5 hours. I think it has something to do with the VTIMEZONE but I don't understand it.
  102. # [22:41] <singpolyma> You can't just put the timezone as part of DTSTART?
  103. # [22:42] <ITrace> Well I could but what is the syntax for that?
  104. # [22:42] <ITrace> Does it look like this: DTSTART:20100318T213000Z
  105. # [22:43] <ITrace> I know that the "Z" stands for something but I don't know what.
  106. # [22:45] <mwunsch> Z
  107. # [22:45] <mwunsch> means UTC
  108. # [22:45] <mwunsch> If you do thhis
  109. # [22:46] <mwunsch> DTSTART:20100318T213000-5:00
  110. # [22:46] <mwunsch> you'll get -5:00 UTC (or Eastern Standard Time)
  111. # [22:46] <mwunsch> not exactly sure how ics handles that
  112. # [22:47] <ITrace> Ok. What will happen if it's not set? I.E. DTSTART:20100318T213000 That's how we had it in our test. There was no timezone information, but some people were still getting the wrong timezone.
  113. # [22:49] <singpolyma> if there's no timezone I'm not sure you have any guarantee as to what happens
  114. # [22:49] <singpolyma> will depend on the app
  115. # [22:49] <ITrace> Thanks.
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  118. # [23:16] <@tantek> mwunsch, DTSTART:20100318T213000-5:00 is not valid ICS
  119. # [23:16] <@tantek> ICS does not allow timezone offsets - only timezone objects or Z
  120. # [23:16] <@tantek> AFAIK
  121. # [23:16] <mwunsch> tantek: I figured as much, not having looked at ICS closely enough.
  122. # [23:16] <@tantek> it has to be converted by the hCal to iCal processor
  123. # [23:17] <@tantek> ITrace - DTSTART:20100318T213000 is a "floating" datetime
  124. # [23:17] <@tantek> time
  125. # [23:17] <@tantek> which means that it occurs at 9:30pm in every timezone
  126. # [23:17] <@tantek> if you need to specify a precise datetime in iCalendar, convert it to UTC
  127. # [23:18] <@tantek> but it is even easier to just publish hCalendar on your website and let the converters take care of that for you
  128. # [23:21] <ITrace> I created a new appointment in Outlook and exported it as a ICS file. That's how I got the DTSTART with a Z on the end.
  129. # [23:22] <mwunsch> 2313000Z will always be 9:30 UTC
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