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  46. # [17:41] <mwunsch> When parsing datetimes, if no timezone is given, do we assume UTC?
  47. # [17:41] <mwunsch> From the wiki: "The lack of a timezone indicates a "floating" datetime, that is a datetime independent of any particular timezone. Examples of floating datetimes could be an alarm clock you set to ring at 7am, or the common 9am-5pm workday."
  48. # [17:43] <singpolyma> floating usually means "local time" in some contexit
  49. # [17:44] <mwunsch> singpolyma: The default behavior right now is to assume the local time zone of the parser
  50. # [17:44] <mwunsch> but this of course, can be different then the local time zone of the publisher
  51. # [17:44] <singpolyma> Right. That is probably what most parsers do
  52. # [17:44] <mwunsch> Ok, i'll continue with that behavoir
  53. # [17:44] <singpolyma> Really, having no timezone is usually not what the publisher should do
  54. # [17:44] <mwunsch> Precisely what I thought.
  55. # [17:45] <mwunsch> i'll continue with passing the valueclass tests and if i come across an error, i'll know what the expected behavior should be
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  57. # [18:00] <mwunsch> Oh man, I have a big issue with this test: http://microformats.org/wiki/value-dt-test-YYYY-MM-DD--Hpm-EEpm
  58. # [18:00] <mwunsch> It's stepping over it's boundaries, it tests for hCalendar implementation, and not just for ValueClass implementation...
  59. # [18:01] <singpolyma> It seems to be to test ValueClass as used with hCal
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  71. # [19:57] <Thell> Hello all... is there a channel stats/logs page somewhere?
  72. # [19:57] <Thell> nm, found the wiki page :)
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  77. # [20:24] <mwunsch> singpolyma: Yes but that's not a pure test of ValueClass
  78. # [20:24] <mwunsch> testing ValueClass should not test hCalendar
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  80. # [20:31] <singpolyma> mwunsch: but you may want to test both :)
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  82. # [20:31] <mwunsch> singpolyma: Well yes but the tests should not be coupled. ValueClass tests should not test for hCalendar implementation, as other microformats besides hCalendar utilize ValueClass.
  83. # [20:32] <singpolyma> You can't really test just valueclass by itself. You need some attribute to be using it inside
  84. # [20:32] <mwunsch> The argument I'm making is about the specific hCalendar implementation
  85. # [20:32] <mwunsch> Testing for impled dtend date should be a part of hCalendar tests
  86. # [20:32] <mwunsch> That is not a part of the ValueClass pattern
  87. # [20:33] <mwunsch> but the ValueClass pattern tests involve that hCalendar feature
  88. # [20:43] <singpolyma> Oh
  89. # [20:43] <singpolyma> I see
  90. # [20:44] <singpolyma> Right
  91. # [20:44] <singpolyma> I hadn't even noticed it was doing that
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  93. # [21:16] <mwunsch> Majority of the valueclass tests do that, so you can't really test them until you have an hCalendar implementation
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