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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jul 27 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  7. # [00:53] <@tantek> mamund - so these are non-HTML rel values?
  8. # [00:53] <@tantek> (just to be clear)
  9. # [00:56] <mamund> yes, applied to an XML media type
  10. # [00:56] <mamund> i recall "collection" as a rel value in the past, but was not able to find any active ref to it.
  11. # [00:56] <@tantek> ok that makes sense
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  13. # [00:58] <@tantek> mamund - are you looking for feedback on your proposed rel values?
  14. # [00:58] <mamund> feel free to suggest edits/mods as you see fit.
  15. # [00:58] <@tantek> the directional rel values are interesting
  16. # [00:58] <@tantek> and seem to make sense
  17. # [00:58] <mamund> :)
  18. # [00:58] <@tantek> however the use of "collection" and "maze" don't make sense IMHO as rel values
  19. # [00:59] <@tantek> because they are not relative relations to the current document
  20. # [00:59] <mamund> hmmm
  21. # [00:59] <mamund> i sede
  22. # [00:59] <@tantek> e.g. rel="collection" to me would mean a collection of things in which the current resource is a member/item of the collection
  23. # [00:59] <mamund> i see
  24. # [00:59] <@tantek> rel is not for arbitrary tagging
  25. # [00:59] <mamund> yeah
  26. # [00:59] <@tantek> e.g. we've already rejected rel="nsfw"
  27. # [00:59] <@tantek> for that reason
  28. # [01:00] <mamund> understood
  29. # [01:00] <@tantek> so rel="maze" meaning "this is a maze" - that's an abuse of rel
  30. # [01:00] <mamund> your collection def works for my particular case, i think.
  31. # [01:00] <mamund> i understand that "maze" is not
  32. # [01:00] <@tantek> for indicating that the target of a link is a specific type of thing, use the "type" attribute with the mime type of the destination
  33. # [01:01] <mamund> hmmm
  34. # [01:01] <@tantek> e.g. instead of <a href rel="maze"> I think you want <a href type="application/maze+xml">
  35. # [01:01] <mamund> the representation will always be in maze+xml
  36. # [01:02] <mamund> but clients can follow links to locate particular "things" or "places"
  37. # [01:02] <mamund> not sure "type" is approp, but some "name" or "class" equiv might be better
  38. # [01:02] <mamund> but i see your point
  39. # [01:03] <@tantek> well, rel="maze" is certainly not right for that
  40. # [01:03] <@tantek> but I'm not sure what is
  41. # [01:03] <@tantek> better to collect some use-cases to figure it oiut
  42. # [01:03] <@tantek> *out
  43. # [01:03] <@tantek> rather than proposing the value
  44. # [01:03] <mamund> yes, i see.
  45. # [01:03] <mamund> i use these in a currently reg'd type that has a handful of sample clients.
  46. # [01:04] <mamund> very small footprint and a vnd type
  47. # [01:04] <mamund> proly make sense to remove the "maze" from the list
  48. # [01:05] <mamund> if i mod the def for collection to read as you suggest...
  49. # [01:05] <mamund> would be make more sense?
  50. # [01:05] <mamund> or should that be removed, too?
  51. # [01:10] <@tantek> either would be fine (revise or remove collection)
  52. # [01:10] <@tantek> and yes, drop rel="maze" accordingly
  53. # [01:10] <@tantek> thanks!
  54. # [01:10] <@tantek> g2g
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  58. # [01:14] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=44279&oldid=44278&rcid=57412 * Mamund * (-165) /* non HTML rel values - modified the description of the "collection" rel value */
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  61. # [01:14] <mamund> also dropped the "maze" rel value.
  62. # [01:15] <mamund> thanks
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  78. # [04:26] <manu`> tantek: ping
  79. # [04:26] <Loqi> pong
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  97. # [09:47] <ChiefRA> tantek you're welcome.
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  118. # [14:22] <Loqi> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=44280&oldid=44070&rcid=57413 * How2CentOS * (+199)
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