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  1. # Session Start: Tue Aug 23 00:00:00 2011
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  4. # [00:08] <singpolyma> tantek: it seems that the examples are just linked to, is that normally the preferred format?
  5. # [00:17] <@tantek> singpolyma - a link to a real world example is a required minimum
  6. # [00:18] <@tantek> you may add more beyond that, e.g. summary analysis of implied fields/properties/schema
  7. # [00:18] <@tantek> or actual quoted bits of markup
  8. # [00:18] <singpolyma> ok
  9. # [00:18] <@tantek> e.g. here is another *-examples research page
  10. # [00:18] <@tantek> that actually has markup inline
  11. # [00:18] <@tantek> (copied from the real world examples - whitespace cleaned up for readability)
  12. # [00:20] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/blog-post-examples#Other_Stock_Examples
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  14. # [00:24] <Loqi> [[User:Polisa]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Polisa&rcid=57614 * Polisa * (+1871) New page: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Polisa e-mail: polisaocmamda@gmail.com My name is Polisa, I come from Poland. If u need more info just contact via e-mail. ...
  15. # [00:25] <@tantek> hello Polisa - are you a human?
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  24. # [01:06] <Loqi> [[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=44455&oldid=39823&rcid=57615 * Singpolyma * (+56) /* Service publishing of photos */ add twitpic example
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  28. # [01:10] <Loqi> [[media-info-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=44456&oldid=44455&rcid=57616 * Singpolyma * (+54) /* Service publishing of photos */ add yfrog example
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  39. # [04:06] <Loqi> [[url-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=url-formats&diff=44457&oldid=44450&rcid=57617 * Tantek * (+464) add DOM location object terms for URL parts/pieces
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  44. # [05:49] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/jaheppler] @parezcoydigo Never looked at HTML microformats before, but it looks really useful and lightweight. Adding that to the todo list...
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  48. # [07:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/HTML5_m8y] HTML5 Microdata, Microformats, and RDFa Tutorials and Resources - WebsitesMadeRight.com http://t.co/nEUJ8S2
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  52. # [09:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mamchenkov] New note : Google : Rich snippets (microdata, microformats, RDFa) - Webmaster Tools Help http://t.co/TCPOCT6
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  56. # Session Start: Tue Aug 23 15:06:25 2011
  57. # Session Ident: #microformats
  58. # [15:06] * Now talking in #microformats
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  61. # [15:06] -ChanServ- [#microformats] Welcome to #microformats. Logs at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats
  62. # [15:06] #microformats url is http://microformats.org
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  64. # [15:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/Fruzsii__] @cintiszabo hátöm ha ezmiatt szivatnak akkor igazán gyerekes és előnytelen viselkedésnek bizonyul. és azzal ne foglalkozz.
  65. # [15:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/hirsebirse] @ChristopherBlum <address> ? If it's an article (blog, review), I would rather use microformats (fn within vcard).
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  77. # [17:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/myfreeweb] @goshakkk, use hCard (http://t.co/bxCZhv1) and make the vCard w/ http://t.co/lHdipo6
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  79. # [17:45] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mattwiebe] @nathansmith Agrred, except for microformats, which have semantic value to search engines.
  80. # [17:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/nathansmith] @bgrebowiec @mattwiebe Exactly, when a microformat parser is told to look for semantics where they normally aren't. http://t.co/Kf1wm6E
  81. # [17:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/bgrebowiec] @nathansmith @tylertate What about microformats? Aren't all the semantics in class attributes?
  82. # [17:49] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mattwiebe] @nathansmith Yep. Microformats were always a (clever) hack.
  83. # [17:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/singpolyma] @bgrebowiec Common misconception. Microformats primarily use class because it's often the right way, but it's not the only … sngpl.ma/t4DV4
  84. # [18:04] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/goshakkk] @myfreeweb then why hCard but schema.org http://t.co/P0wsaOv ?
  85. # [18:17] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/reka_1D] bírod a one directiont?
  86. # [18:17] <Loqi> Csak SzanDii
  87. # [18:17] <Loqi> 2 minutes ago
  88. # [18:17] <Loqi> Csak SzanDii
  89. # [18:17] <Loqi> hátöm izééé..:$
  90. # [18:17] <Loqi> ami azt (cont) http://t.co/Vw3r8BY
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  94. # [18:49] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/franksvalli] @nathansmith i.e. adding microformats/microdata was nonsemantic before something was created to get meaning out of it
  95. # [18:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/nathansmith] @an_elephant No value, except for microformat parser. Naming should be logical, for maintainability, but doesn't affect doc interpretation.
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  116. # [19:25] * Set by tantek on Mon Apr 09 17:30:07
  117. # [19:25] -ChanServ- [#microformats] Welcome to #microformats. Logs at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats
  118. # [19:25] #microformats url is http://microformats.org
  119. # [19:31] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/myfreeweb] @goshakkk, microformats are simpler & more supported
  120. # [19:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/goshakkk] @myfreeweb left Address Book's vCard and image of QR code. Added schema.org Person description. Somehow I don't wanna care about hCard
  121. # [19:33] <@tantek> microformats folks - thinking about setting the topic for tonight's meetup to semantic markup and rich snippets in general - microformats vs. microdata vs RDFa vs schemaorg too
  122. # [19:34] <@tantek> thoughts?
  123. # [19:36] <@tantek> oh sweet - another H2V conversion service: http://h2v.1daylater.com/
  124. # [19:39] <Loqi> [[h2vx]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h2vx&diff=44458&oldid=44232&rcid=57618 * Tantek * (+128) add h2v.1daylater.com
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  126. # [19:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] Javascript-based hCard and hCalendar conversion service h2v.1daylater.com launched by @myfreeweb. (similar to @h2vx) ^@t
  127. # [20:13] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/myfreeweb] @microformats, not by me! I never said this! I found it on your wiki
  128. # [20:16] <hober> tantek: my only complaint on that topic is that i won't be there to chime in :)
  129. # [20:17] <@tantek> hober we may have network access and will see if we can get on IRC :)
  130. # [20:19] <@tantek> hah oops - attributed the wrong person for h2v.1daylater
  131. # [20:21] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] Correction: hCard/hCalendar converter h2v.1daylater.com launched by @1DayLater (re-discovered via @myfreeweb :) ^@t
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  136. # [20:49] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/so_white] http://t.co/MYspKcr
  137. # [20:49] <Loqi> Generator für hCard/vCard
  138. # [20:55] <@tantek> oh nice
  139. # [20:55] <@tantek> ok microformats meet up description updated: http://plancast.com/p/70aa
  140. # [20:56] <@tantek> "There's been a lot of discussion recently about microformats vs microdata vs RDFa vs schema.org vs Open Graph Protocol and their impacts (or not) on search / SEO / Rich Snippets - let's share what we've learned over a pint or two. "
  141. # [21:01] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mgnoriega] This article is pretty insightful http://t.co/AIT1A17 both about the history of microformats et al. and the process of spec making.
  142. # [21:09] <Loqi> [[hcard-implementations]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-implementations&diff=44459&oldid=43902&rcid=57619 * Tantek * (+79) /* Web-based Creators */ add German restyled version
  143. # [21:17] <Loqi> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events&diff=44460&oldid=44023&rcid=57620 * Tantek * (+446) meetup tonight
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  149. # [22:21] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/richcampbell] Interviewing @emilylewis on DotNetRocks, talking about web design and microformats!
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  153. # [22:37] <Loqi> [[events/2011-08-23-meetup]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2011-08-23-meetup&rcid=57621 * Tantek * (+3343) drafted
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  157. # [22:58] <Loqi> [[events/2011-08-23-meetup]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2011-08-23-meetup&diff=44462&oldid=44461&rcid=57622 * Tantek * (+71) FB
  158. # [23:03] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/emilylewis] Finished an interview w/ @richcampbell & @carlfranklin for their DotNetRocks podcast! Thx for letting me blab about microformats, gentlemen
  159. # [23:07] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/adrianshort] @EmmaMaier Google uses #microformats all over the place: http://j.mp/n8Cf7R
  160. # [23:15] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/adrianshort] @EmmaMaier It's a great idea. You can probably get a #microformats parser for your browser. Search its plugins/extensions store.
  161. # [23:17] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/adrianshort] @EmmaMaier If you want to go the whole hog, try hNews: http://j.mp/qLcBXT
  162. # [23:35] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/koshizo2] 【jquerymobile】【google】【microformats】 jquery-ui-map - Project Hosting on Google Code http://t.co/l0JMoMZ
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  165. # [23:41] <Loqi> [[events/2011-08-23-meetup]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2011-08-23-meetup&diff=44463&oldid=44462&rcid=57623 * Tantek * (+1) ;:
  166. # [23:43] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/t] beautiful day, perfect for a @microformats/#microdata/#rdfa/#schema meetup @ Gordon Biersch's outdoor patio 7pm: http://t.co/M90hRIQ
  167. # [23:45] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/jahendler] Wish I could come: RT @t: beautiful day, perfect for a @microformats/#microdata/#rdfa/#schema meetup: http://t.co/CZx6Hov
  168. # [23:53] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] SF meetup *tonight* 7pm @Gordon_Biersch #microformats #microdata #rdfa #schemaorg #ogp vs #search #seo plancast.com/p/70aa
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