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  6. # [00:27] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/RyanJohnston] My Info, 1 page to email me, contact me, skype me (or if you are a robot, view my #microformats) - ryanj@ryanj.org at http://ryanj.org
  7. # [00:37] <@tantek> Interesting criticism of schema.org technology and effort: www.seoegghead.com/blog/seo/5-ways-schemaorg-borks-the-internet-p848.html
  8. # [00:37] <@tantek> We should read through this and make sure that microformats (both as technology and community) don't repeat the same mistakes.
  9. # [00:41] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/graywolf] Archives: HCards, Microformats and Address Data does it Matter for SEO http://t.co/F0WH3C8W
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  11. # [00:45] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44766&oldid=44765&rcid=57975 * Tantek * (+645) /* Parsing Literal Values */ updated a few thoughts. Leaning toward 's-' for simple structures that don't imply any properties; implying 'name'/'url'/'photo' is actually quite diffrerent from 'value'
  12. # [00:45] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/feedseoces] TOP | www.seoces.com | Google vevent microformat not showing u http://t.co/S27XIjtZ
  13. # [00:48] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44767&oldid=44766&rcid=57976 * Tantek * (+306) see also
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  15. # [00:49] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-prefixes]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-prefixes&diff=44768&oldid=44658&rcid=57977 * Tantek * (+485) /* prefixes for future consideration */ s-* for structs/structures/structured properties+values
  16. # [00:50] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-prefixes]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-prefixes&diff=44769&oldid=44768&rcid=57978 * Tantek * (+31) /* prefixes for future consideration */ s- example uses: s-geo, s-adr
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  20. # [02:41] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/feedseoces] TOP | www.seoces.com | Google vevent microformat not showing u http://t.co/S27XIjtZ
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  28. # [08:35] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-prefixes]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-prefixes&diff=44770&oldid=44769&rcid=57979 * BenWard * (+1541) /* prefixes for future consideration */ -1 on s-prefix.
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  31. # [08:41] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-brainstorming&diff=44771&oldid=44738&rcid=57980 * BenWard * (+238) /* adopt itemref */ Note hAtom shared author use case for itemref left open by loss of <address> optimisation.
  32. # [08:51] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-brainstorming&diff=44772&oldid=44771&rcid=57981 * BenWard * (+517) /* adopt itemref */ Noting that lovely as itemref is, it's not HTML5, nor is it stable, and we've rejected useful invalid attributes in the past.
  33. # [08:52] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-brainstorming]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-brainstorming&diff=44773&oldid=44772&rcid=57982 * BenWard * (-3) /* adopt itemref */ fix code typo
  34. # [08:56] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44774&oldid=44767&rcid=57983 * BenWard * (+109) /* Other Interpretation/Parsing Notes */ Aaaaand, rel-tag in hAtom would be unparsable, too.
  35. # [09:00] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-prefixes]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-prefixes&diff=44775&oldid=44770&rcid=57984 * Tantek * (+1073) follow-up on s- comments, some agreement, some need for further documentation, note about label / adr updates
  36. # [09:11] <Loqi> [[Minimal Residue Food Plan Food Collection]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Minimal_Residue_Food_Plan_Food_Collection&rcid=57985 * Dietideas101 * (+3205) New page: A low residue diet isn't as widely used as a few of the more well-known trend eating plans and clinical meal plans which are increasingly popular intended for dieting on the market today. ...
  37. # [09:11] <@tantek> I prefer low carbs to low residue myself.
  38. # [09:11] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/block]] block * Tantek * blocked [[User:Dietideas101]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites
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  40. # [09:12] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Tantek * deleted "[[Minimal Residue Food Plan Food Collection]]": content was spam
  41. # [09:13] <aaronpk> minimal residue food? wow...
  42. # [09:18] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44777&oldid=44774&rcid=57988 * Tantek * (+412) re: hAtom and rel-tag, noting redef of rel-tag in HTML5, and h-atom now having p-category.
  43. # [09:29] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44778&oldid=44777&rcid=57989 * BenWard * (+1584) Alternative: Propose parsing all rel attributes for all microformats.
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  45. # [09:45] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44779&oldid=44778&rcid=57990 * Tantek * (+1025) /* Parsing properties from rel attributes */ some follow-ups, in general positive with a few nits
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  52. # [10:35] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44780&oldid=44779&rcid=57991 * BenWard * (+1224) /* Parsing properties from rel attributes */ Proposed handlings for possible rel/class conflicts (with 'author' example)
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  58. # [11:39] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/neogeografen] Mit bud på god/dårlig formidling af geodata på http://t.co/rLuyvhZz #odis
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  68. # [14:57] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/chrpr] http://t.co/DYhA9bb4 has started a nice collection of links & info on Microdata, Microformats, JSON-LD & RDFa. Mailing list, too.
  69. # [14:57] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/nabityb] kop ah gatakut sama si @megasesaria anak nya si kacang hatom mah RT @agung_rbc: Subhanaloh nabit bilangin gera siah(⌣́_⌣̀)RT
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  74. # [15:09] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/agung_rbc] Hahahahaha =)) RT @NabitYB: kop ah gatakut sama si @megasesaria anak nya si kacang hatom mah RT @agung_rbc: (cont) http://t.co/2UaddnRR
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  86. # [15:37] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/WorkwiseCRM] We're implementing microformat data in customer profiles to enable quick transfer of contact info to addressbooks. http://t.co/iAH68OlD
  87. # [15:45] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/AntJanus] Make your site @readability compliant and easily parsed by Search Engines: Microformats Wiki http://ow.ly/6LJPH #SEO, #html,
  88. # [15:45] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/SeveralBears] Are people (and machines) using microformats yet? #microformats
  89. # [16:11] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/Go_SpaceCraft] Employing Microformats & Structured Data For Enhanced Search Engine Visibility http://t.co/qmgWexQE
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  93. # [16:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/SeveralBears] Are people (and machines) using microformats yet?
  94. # [16:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/WorkwiseCRM] We're implementing microformat data in WorkwiseCRM customer profile pages to enable quick transfer of customer data into address books.
  95. # [17:02] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-parsing&diff=44781&oldid=44780&rcid=57992 * Tantek * (+1912) markup source snippets with wiki tags accordingly, comment what is parsed from where, provide another illustrative example
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  98. # [17:10] <Loqi> [[microformats-2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2&diff=44782&oldid=44752&rcid=57993 * Tantek * (+382) /* h-event location h-card */ add combined structure note that location value has (desired) differences from the separate property values of the h-card
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  102. # [17:52] <Loqi> [[microformats-2-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats-2-brainstorming&diff=44783&oldid=44773&rcid=57994 * Tantek * (+1514) /* adopt itemref */ separate the issues Ben raised into individual issues, rephrase as questions, attempt to answer including points he raised.
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  114. # [19:21] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/AntJanus] @pelfusion I think microformats ( http://ow.ly/6OpDN ) and Schemas ( http://ow.ly/6OpKd ) should be commonly used for proper documentation.
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  125. # [21:39] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/alunlj] Employing Microformats & Structured Data For Enhanced Search Engine Visibility http://t.co/8mcrNvz6 via @sengineland
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  132. # [22:43] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/TortueFacile] @DeadPx Non non, une vraie vcard utilise les microformats : http://t.co/C9gU9H6K
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  134. # [23:11] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/trek] @jasonmulligan it's just the age-old params parsing, but with conventions for handling nested data structures.
  135. # [23:11] <Loqi> http://t.co/IiyhOiny
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  139. # [23:37] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mildmojo] Anyone have good resources for creating an API using XHTML, or building microformats? Semantic markup seems nice, but not a lot of examples.
  140. # [23:41] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/heyjudeonline] Employing Microformats & Structured Data For Enhanced Search Engine Visibility http://t.co/WV7Wsapy via @zite
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