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  1. # Session Start: Thu Nov 03 00:00:01 2011
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  15. # [00:43] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/omnireso] MY ONE PAGE : Microformats galore ? Nope it seems. Just another stylish online business card service ? http://t.co/yvwYPHRN
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  17. # [00:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/kevinmarks] @marshallk @emilybell currently the 'show author photo' stuff requires a G+ profile, which is dubious; could use on-site rel=me and hCard
  18. # [00:53] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/SoftwareTwts] Highlight Microformats with CSS :: journal :: hicksdesign Ο° http://t.co/hoLKRNxw
  19. # [00:53] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/SoftwareTwts] Highlight Microformats with CSS :: journal :: hicksdesign Ο° http://t.co/VUjJZ041
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  23. # [01:15] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/RodriguezFilipe] The Filipe Rodriguez Daily is out! http://t.co/P4qpN4W9 ▸ Top stories today via @abovefunction @microformats @torgo
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  37. # [05:17] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/ja_wp_newpages] [ja.wp NewPages] HCalendar http://t.co/usLVHD4S
  38. # [05:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/next49] #waqwaq 短い記事だけど翻訳に時間がかかってしまった。でも、やっと貢献できてよかった。 → hCalendar http://t.co/OlbgcQhD
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  43. # [05:59] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/oinch] 874 likes: Microformats Icons -- The brilliant work of Wolfgang Bartelme http://t.co/SeEsOlPi #microformats via @big_cocks
  44. # [06:01] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/mlinksva] super interesting transcript/notes on http://t.co/GQu6wNh2 #microformats #microdata #rdfa
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  47. # [06:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/shunning] 864 likes: rest/ahah - Microformats http://t.co/KteJVypZ #microformats via @eating_pussy
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  59. # [09:03] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/Trudieopb] Microformats: Empowering Your Markup for Web 2.0: Microformats burst onto the scene a couple of years ago and ar... http://t.co/8hOO5Sb6
  60. # [10:29] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/neogeografen] Gratis ide til kommunernes GIS afdelinger http://t.co/6PyuFDO9 #odis eller send forslaget/ideen til din kommune
  61. # [10:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/chrisdarroch] @jonicklas @ben_h @bjeanes @topfunky it's nothing we couldn't do with <data class=time>, but then my time microformat mightn't match yours.
  62. # [10:37] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/GetMeCooking] The truth (with evidence) about Search Engines, Recipe Search, microformats (hRecipe) and Schema http://t.co/t97yRvD5
  63. # [10:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] I'm not convinced that data- attribs shouldn't have external semantics. I think they should if used within a valid public microformat.
  64. # [10:57] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] But shouldn't if not inside a valid public microformat.
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  67. # [13:21] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @MattWilcox access requirement for IRC: browser. E.g.: http://t.co/BuRVYmXO Also, IRC archives are more searchable/discoverable than forums.
  68. # [13:27] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats Forum accessibility can be good, IRC seems like it'll be pretty poor. I have not actually checked yet though.
  69. # [13:27] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats "Javascript is required to use IRC" is all I get visiting that page...
  70. # [13:33] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] I wish I had time to write a decent blog post re microformats/schema.org and also the communication mediums of Open Source organisations.
  71. # [13:39] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @MattWilcox real-time/conversational web interfaces currently require JS. A no-JS web IRC client would be great. Agreed re use web for comms
  72. # [13:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @MattWilcox IRC logs are browsable without JS and have good per statement URL permalinks: http://t.co/mXLHxVaC
  73. # [13:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @MattWilcox microformats community is also a strong proponent of using the medium of the web to plan its evolution e.g. http://t.co/LrgHpOMa
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  75. # [14:01] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats Agree they're browsable, but dear lord that is hard to read. Find the actual communication in the jumble?
  76. # [14:03] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats But at least there's something there, so that's good. I still feel forums would be better on a number of levels for most users
  77. # [14:05] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats ... http://t.co/poYoApHs That's the homepage. Now, where do i go to view all microformats?
  78. # [14:05] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats Wiki is indeed preferable to email, for all those reasons :) Wiki's, however, are still fairly unfriendly, eg...
  79. # [14:07] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats I'm not saying the info isn't there, I'm saying it takes serious dedication to find, and a familiarity with your process/terms
  80. # [14:09] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats Wiki's are not for "normal" people. The only useful example I know of is wikipedia, which is a very specific interaction.
  81. # [14:09] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats Also "wiki" is not popular lexicon. When people are looking for discussions or documentation, they don't look for "wiki".
  82. # [14:11] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats you do not "browse" a wiki. You search it, but that requires you know what to search for. Wikipedia can do that. mF cant.
  83. # [14:13] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats ... so i search for 'hcard' and recieve back not topics but timestamps and link code. It is, frankly, useless.
  84. # [14:13] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats r.e., http://t.co/BGCES6XG - how do i search for a topic? I look for topics, not dates of communication...
  85. # [14:17] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats - and so with all of this, where do i go for up-to-date info? The blog? The Wiki? The mailing list? The IRC logs? Too many...
  86. # [14:19] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/MattWilcox] @microformats ...channels, surely? And none are intuitive to use for most people (except 'blog').
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  88. # [14:36] <Loqi> [[events]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events&diff=44889&oldid=44646&rcid=58119 * Tantek * (+633) moved past events, added recent events
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  90. # [14:52] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=44890&oldid=44887&rcid=58120 * UnSourCeR * (+113) /* new and uncategorized examples */
  91. # [14:53] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=44891&oldid=44890&rcid=58121 * UnSourCeR * (-250)
  92. # [14:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @sushiday good luck with your #hReceipe session! Please feel free to add it to the microformats events wiki: http://t.co/FYZF7Lp2
  93. # [15:05] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @sushiday good luck with your #hRecipe session! Please feel free to add it to the microformats events wiki: http://t.co/FYZF7Lp2
  94. # [15:09] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=44892&oldid=44891&rcid=58122 * Tantek * (-113) undo revision by UnSourCeR, prosweb*gr still lacks an hCard. feels spammy. if UnSourCeR adds it again, likely to be banned.
  95. # [15:11] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/okke29] Ligt het nu aan mij of ondersteund iPhone (mobile Safari) geen vCard / hCard... :-(
  96. # [15:15] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/bkraft] can't find a microformat plugin for Safari
  97. # [15:19] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/microformats] @bkraft check the @microformats Safari wiki: http://t.co/XX7j85t5 any problems? please add to the "Issues" section. Thanks! ^@t
  98. # [15:23] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/bkraft] @microformats thanks I have seen that but there seems to be no news on the Safari &% Microformats front
  99. # [15:23] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/bkraft] @hpesojg it hasn't been updated in 2 years… I assume it doesn't, and surprised there is no support for Microformats in Safari
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  101. # [15:25] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/krijnhoetmer] @microformats @MattWilcox As long as my little machine keeps running :)
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  103. # [16:05] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/cpan_new] XML-Atom-Microformats 0.003 by TOBYINK - http://t.co/thXGq6RR
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  105. # [16:43] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/web2_marseille] Publier une hCard · Microformats Wiki http://t.co/s1k1BYf2
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  111. # [17:07] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=44893&oldid=44883&rcid=58123 * Relviaguy * (+91) added info about the 'via' relation from Atom 1.0
  112. # [17:07] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/incredibul] @fasel Warum? Das geht doch Richtung Webstandards. Microformats könnte man z.B. als Grundlage nutzen //cc @NineBerry
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  117. # [17:22] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=44894&oldid=44893&rcid=58124 * Relviaguy * (-146) /* POSH usage */ removed via
  118. # [17:23] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=44895&oldid=44894&rcid=58125 * Relviaguy * (+146) /* non HTML rel values */ addedd via
  119. # [17:26] <@tantek> Thanks Relviaguy
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  121. # [17:40] <Loqi> [[CarlosAraya]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=CarlosAraya&diff=44896&oldid=34193&rcid=58126 * Aser * (+34)
  122. # [17:41] <Loqi> [[CarlosAraya]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=CarlosAraya&diff=44897&oldid=44896&rcid=58127 * Tantek * (-34) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Aser|Aser]] ([[User talk:Aser|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:CarlosAraya|CarlosAraya]]
  123. # [17:41] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/block]] block * Tantek * blocked [[User:Aser]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites
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  127. # [18:03] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/incredibul] @frojokiss Ich sehe auch noch große Probleme, aber z.B. auf microformats einigen und Imp./Exp. Funktion anbieten ginge @fasel @NineBerry
  128. # [18:07] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/alegauss] Uma boa leitura: RDFa vs. Microformats http://t.co/P2f0vwv7
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  133. # [18:27] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/sushiday] At #BWELA, hiding in the speakers room, trying to pretend I'm not ridiculously nervous about my microformats session today.
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  151. # [20:53] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/lanyrdalert] Microformats: Suddenly Crucial For Every Food Blogger in Room 153 B, 3:45pm @sushiday http://t.co/Pyd4PNGz
  152. # [21:21] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/efedorenko] Marking up one of our projects with http://t.co/6BBNw03R meta data. Even while I used Microformats a lot they never felt practical to me.
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  155. # [21:51] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/kevinmarks] @om @brianalvey the point of working on #microformats is to optimize the web for everyone who wants to search it. Technorati, G, Y, anyone
  156. # [21:59] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/steverobinson] Thanks, @c2gps for feeding us! MKE Web Design Meetup on 11/17: Microformats & Metadata for Design & Dev http://t.co/bL0Ps6pm
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  163. # [22:37] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/brianalvey] @kevinmarks Amen on the #microformats. Praise the tags and pass the metadata! /cc @om, @t
  164. # [22:41] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/SurigaoDigiServ] This one is also very useful if you need to check seo compliance and microformats : https://chrome
  165. # [22:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/qDot] @ferlatte @inexorabletash Yup. I use mumamo for inlined HTML with microformats
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  171. # [23:47] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/ritcheyer] been looking at #schema vs #microformats all day;writing up a document outlining pros/cons of both for a project im on. #alldaydocumenting
  172. # [23:57] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/dragonflytweet] Listening to @sushiday talk about new microformats for recipes so they are indexed properly for Google #bwela
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