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  1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 23 00:00:00 2011
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  4. # [00:20] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/kevinmarks] @mathewi twitter handles are a reasonable identity link, as they support xfn to connect profiles. Consider using hCard markup too
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  25. # [08:34] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/nerdsingeneral] Julkort. 23:e december. http://t.co/VNjXsaTe
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  37. # [13:57] <Robin> Hello microformatters. Does anyone know of standards for class names for layout elements on HTML?
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  39. # [13:58] <NottRobin> Hello microformatters. Does anyone know of standards for class names for layout elements in HTML? It occurs to me that many pages have a very standard layout of 1) a "squeeze" container element, 2) a header 3) a navigation 4) main content 5) footer
  40. # [13:58] <NottRobin> are there standards in how you mark-up those elements with class-names?
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  43. # [14:37] <voxpelli> NottRobin: There are standard elements for them in HTML5 - I would suggest either using those elements or use classnames with the names of those elements
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  45. # [14:38] <NottRobin> Yes I will use the HTML5 element names
  46. # [14:39] <NottRobin> I was wondering if there were more specific standards for whether <nav> goes inside <header> or out side it, or for how you should name a "container" element...
  47. # [14:45] <voxpelli> NottRobin: The HTML5-spec should define that - right? Jeremy Keiths book described it pretty well as I remember: http://html5forwebdesigners.com/semantics/index.html
  48. # [14:48] <NottRobin> Yeah, that explains semantic elements pretty well. Thanks. I guess there is no more specific - even draft - standard for how exactly you structure those common layout elements.
  49. # [14:49] <NottRobin> I was thinking someone might have defined a standard like <body><header></header><div class="content"><aside class="pre"></aside><article></article></div><footer></footer></body></div> that anyone could copy to make their document structure a bit more standard.
  50. # [14:53] <voxpelli> NottRobin: The closest there is within the microformats wiki that I'm aware of is the POSH patterns: http://microformats.org/wiki/posh
  51. # [15:09] <NottRobin> Yep that appears to aggregate a whole set of commonly held principles for semantic markup, like not using tables for layout, not using anorexic anchors etc. Unfortunately I couldn't see anything in poshformats or poshpatterns about defining layout and naming of structural elements.
  52. # [15:09] <NottRobin> I'll just come up with my own standard for it
  53. # [15:09] <NottRobin> and use it everywhere
  54. # [15:09] <NottRobin> and blog about it
  55. # [15:09] <NottRobin> that's cool. Thanks.
  56. # [15:09] <voxpelli> Sounds like a good plan
  57. # [15:11] <NottRobin> =)
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  61. # [16:12] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/webmunger] Does anyone else use the hCard microformat in their HTML email sig, or is it just me? #geek
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  68. # [17:46] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=45174&oldid=45148&rcid=58453 * Larsbeck * (+84) +1
  69. # [17:47] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=45175&oldid=45174&rcid=58454 * Larsbeck * (+1) /* new and uncategorized examples */ slip of the virtual pen, sorry
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  88. # [22:54] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/jesperbjensen] Created myself a little code-util lib (C#) for creating hCalendar and hCard html: https://t.co/MyxESYsj - still heavy 'work in progress'.
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