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  16. # [02:52] <Loqi> [[Roar out to for providing a great service Bitcoin accepted 62]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Roar_out_to_for_providing_a_great_service_Bitcoin_accepted_62&rcid=59417 * NadiaStinson4 * (+3196) New page: [[Image:Bitcoin_and_the_anachronism_of_Elite_BRIC_Fiat_Money_Systems_2980.jpg|thumb|]] Saviez-vous qu'il existe un quiz sur les 75 ans de Radio-Canada qui pourrait vous
  17. # [03:41] <Loqi> [[Current bitcoin rate 4 81515 51]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Current_bitcoin_rate_4_81515_51&rcid=59418 * MosesWaters5 * (+2858) New page: [[Image:Bitcoin_and_the_failure_of_Elite_BRIC_Central_Banking_3247.jpg|thumb|]] Why is it when i one thing up everything else screws up too... :/ oh thank you Mel ;) its was cool test. ha...
  18. # [04:08] <Loqi> [[Current bitcoin rate 4 81515 89]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Current_bitcoin_rate_4_81515_89&rcid=59419 * HarlanPinto6 * (+4267) New page: [[Image:Bitcoin_and_the_anachronism_of_Elite_BRIC_Fiat_Money_Systems_3727.jpg|thumb|]] I don't regret this life chose for me. really that good huh? Doing homework. Apple registrou uma pa...
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  20. # [04:23] <Atty> howdy!
  21. # [04:31] <Atty> I was a little confused on the addtocal app you wrote. I didnt see much documentation on how to host the ical yourself..
  22. # [04:38] <Atty> basically if im hosting the ics file how do i use it..
  23. # [04:42] <Atty> nevermind I figured it out.
  24. # [04:42] <Atty> thanks a bunch
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  26. # [04:51] <Loqi> [[Just launched Physical Bitcoin Cards wE6wSG 45]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Just_launched_Physical_Bitcoin_Cards_wE6wSG_45&rcid=59420 * DanValle7 * (+2471) New page: [[Image:Bitcoin_and_the_anachronism_of_Elite_BRIC_Central_Banking_2963.jpg|thumb|]] Hoy 12 del medio día sorteo las entradas para el dj set de en el espacio de ! +de 200 comentarios!!! M...
  27. # [05:06] <Atty> how do you remove the 30boxes?
  28. # [05:29] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/sharelike] Mengatasi Error pada Hcard di Rich Snippets Testing Tool: Mengatasi Error pada Hcard di Rich Snippets Testing T... http://t.co/TvRAMTH0
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  39. # [09:00] <Loqi> [[Roar out to for providing a great service Bitcoin accepted 62]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Roar_out_to_for_providing_a_great_service_Bitcoin_accepted_62&diff=45808&oldid=45804&rcid=59421 * ChiefRA * (-3196) removed spammy content, please block this user
  40. # [09:00] <Loqi> [[Current bitcoin rate 4 81515 51]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Current_bitcoin_rate_4_81515_51&diff=45809&oldid=45805&rcid=59422 * ChiefRA * (-2858) removed spammy content, please block this user
  41. # [09:01] <Loqi> [[Current bitcoin rate 4 81515 89]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Current_bitcoin_rate_4_81515_89&diff=45810&oldid=45806&rcid=59423 * ChiefRA * (-4267) removed spammy content, please block this user
  42. # [09:01] <Loqi> [[Just launched Physical Bitcoin Cards wE6wSG 45]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Just_launched_Physical_Bitcoin_Cards_wE6wSG_45&diff=45811&oldid=45807&rcid=59424 * ChiefRA * (-2471) removed spammy content, please block this user
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  66. # [11:55] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/rashmasch] When using HTML5 hCalendar microformats keep in mind that "dtend" is day after, not the ending day of event.
  67. # [11:57] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/rashmasch] When using HTML5 hCalendar microformats keep in mind that "dtend" is day after, not the ending day of event. #html5 #microformats
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  72. # [13:23] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/jaffathecake] @stevefaulkner Unfortunately that's part of the hCalendar microformat (which I personally disagree with http://t.co/hvUM2lsZ)
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  76. # [14:26] <Loqi> [[AaronMckellar43]] NM http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=AaronMckellar43&rcid=59433 * AaronMckellar43 * (+3587) New page: One particular of the very first details that will strike you when you arrive in Santorini is the spectacle of the island's sheer volcanic cliffs strewn with the local villages' white stru...
  77. # [14:28] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/maudyoddy] Tq hatom ({}) "@HannaKhz: Selamat yaa☺ RT maudyoddy: Alhamdulillah O:) usaha pourix ada hasilnya juga !!!!!"
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  83. # [16:08] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/TechNetSavvy] #hReview Markup for #Blogger
  84. # [16:08] <Loqi> http://t.co/5a4UlXoo via @TechNetSavvy
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  97. # [18:15] <Loqi> [http://twitter.com/TechNetSavvy] hReview Markup for Blogger http://t.co/aqA10HVj
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  103. # [19:19] <stevieman> Quick question. I'm just starting with microformats/schema and I noticed that you start off a section with something like <div itemprop="address"> Now my address is inside a <li> so I get a blank line in the list because of the div. I can paste the code if that helps
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  106. # [19:27] <@tantek> hey stevieman - blank lines and such depend typically on the text content and CSS, though sometimes an errant <br> can cause such problems
  107. # [19:27] <@tantek> what's your markup?
  108. # [19:27] <stevieman> second let me pastebin it
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  111. # [19:30] <stevieman> tantek, http://pastebin.com/k4u8917r
  112. # [19:33] <stevieman> It's the div in the second <li>
  113. # [19:34] <stevieman> tantek, the funky a hrefs are djanog btw
  114. # [19:34] <stevieman> django
  115. # [19:45] <@tantek> ah - you can't put a div directly inside a ul
  116. # [19:45] <@tantek> that's part of the problem
  117. # [19:46] <@tantek> want me to try a revision that fixes it and shows how to use hCard and the itemprop stuff simultaneously?
  118. # [19:50] <@tantek> stevieman, also it was missing a close div inside
  119. # [19:50] <stevieman> tantek, noooo, really?
  120. # [19:51] <stevieman> tantek, nope the close div is there "<span itemprop="addressRegion">CA</span></div>"
  121. # [19:52] <@tantek> check this out: http://pastebin.com/gFaEvC2T
  122. # [19:52] <stevieman> The CSS is kind of messed. I inherited the site
  123. # [19:53] <@tantek> oops just found the close div inside but too soon
  124. # [19:54] <@tantek> here this should do it: http://pastebin.com/qhvUzf1W
  125. # [19:54] <stevieman> tantek, I think it's this <div class="adr" itemprop="address" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/PostalAddress"> that is causing the problem
  126. # [19:55] <@tantek> or the &nbsp; before it
  127. # [19:55] <@tantek> do you need the &nbsp; ? if not, just remove it
  128. # [19:55] <@tantek> here: http://pastebin.com/0neqkX4A
  129. # [19:56] <@tantek> the nbsp causes something to be put on the line, which then the div has to break and start a new line after
  130. # [19:57] <stevieman> It's just adding space. If I remove the div everything in the second <li> lines up properly and is rendered on one line. With the div there the extra line gets inserted and the line breaks just after CA
  131. # [19:58] <stevieman> tantek, removing the &nbsp; fixed the empty line issue
  132. # [19:58] <@tantek> sweet - there you go - now with hCard too so your local business info will work with even more tools
  133. # [19:58] <stevieman> tantek, however I now have the short line problem. It's like the div isn't set to width:100%
  134. # [19:59] <@tantek> it'll be whatever width its parent is by default
  135. # [20:00] <@tantek> have you considered adding a "Download contact info" link?
  136. # [20:00] <@tantek> e.g. using http://h2vx.com/vcf/
  137. # [20:00] <stevieman> the paretn div is 100%
  138. # [20:00] <@tantek> so that means 100% of its parent etc.
  139. # [20:00] <@tantek> (not counting margins, border, padding)
  140. # [20:01] <stevieman> tantek, yah, I set the parent to 700px which more than enough room for the full line of text
  141. # [20:01] <@tantek> there might be another rule that sets the width of ul or li maybe?
  142. # [20:04] <stevieman> tantek, I have a rule specifically for the li. I've tried 100%, 700 px no change. I pull that div out and it works
  143. # [20:06] <stevieman> tantek, I pasted your last pastebin and it worked. I have to see what you did differently
  144. # [20:09] <@tantek> great!
  145. # [20:09] <stevieman> tantek, you included the postalcode and phone # inside the address itemscope you also put the Localbusiness itemscope inside the UL istead of in it's own div
  146. # [20:10] <@tantek> right, the postal-code needs to be inside the adr/address as its a part of it
  147. # [20:10] <@tantek> the tel will work in either place in hCard
  148. # [20:11] <@tantek> although to be hierarchically precise, it could be moved outside the adr div
  149. # [20:11] <stevieman> ah the reason I had it outside was the example here http://schema.org/LocalBusiness shows it outside the div
  150. # [20:11] <stevieman> example 2 to be specific
  151. # [20:11] <@tantek> the tel?
  152. # [20:12] <stevieman> doh
  153. # [20:12] <@tantek> sure, here's a version with the tel outside the adr div: http://pastebin.com/yjvAT4XV
  154. # [20:13] <@tantek> I took out the trailing comma after the postal code because it would look odd at the end of the line, because putting the close div there puts the tel on its own line
  155. # [20:14] <stevieman> It's like learning CSS all over again :)
  156. # [20:17] <@tantek> :0
  157. # [20:17] <@tantek> :)
  158. # [20:18] <stevieman> tantek, Thanks, So after all that I check the code and I get: Warning: This information will not appear as a rich snippet in search results results, because it seems to describe an organization. Google does not currently display organization information in rich snippets
  159. # [20:19] <@tantek> yeah - it's hard to tell what microformats (nevermind schema) Google will support when
  160. # [20:20] <@tantek> we've tried to keep a good list here: http://microformats.org/wiki/google-search
  161. # [20:22] <stevieman> tantek, I guess that doesn't mean they are not using the data, just not showing that data type in the SERPs
  162. # [20:22] <@tantek> yeah, plus it's a good reason for using microformats first, since they're more widely supported in other tools than schema
  163. # [20:23] <@tantek> e.g. Firefox Operator makes for a good user (and debugging) tool http://microformats.org/wiki/Operator
  164. # [20:23] <@tantek> and H2VX.com allows you to create links directly on your site for users to download the contact info to their address books
  165. # [20:24] <@tantek> both of which support / use the hCard in the markup in the pastebin I linked above
  166. # [20:24] <@tantek> and Google also supports hCard
  167. # [20:26] <Loqi> [[rich-snippets]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=rich-snippets&diff=45813&oldid=40575&rcid=59436 * Tantek * (-21) fix broken image link with another version of the image online
  168. # [20:32] <@tantek> btw this is very cool: Calagator imports hCalendar events: http://calagator.org/sources/new
  169. # [20:32] <@tantek> so if you want to post an event on Calagator, you can just blog the event yourself with hCalendar and then give Calagator the link to your blog post
  170. # [20:36] <Loqi> [[google]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=google&rcid=59437 * Tantek * (+253) stub
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  176. # [21:56] <Loqi> [[User:Juraj]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Juraj&diff=45815&oldid=45800&rcid=59438 * Juraj * (+651)
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  181. # [23:22] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Juraj * [[User:Juraj]] moved to [[brainstroming-how-to]]
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  184. # [23:50] <Loqi> [[User:Juraj]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Juraj&diff=45820&oldid=45818&rcid=59441 * Juraj * (-21)
  185. # [23:52] <Loqi> [[how to]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=how_to&rcid=59442 * Juraj * (+1003) New page: Every day we are looking for some kind of manual to solve our problems. If we can not effectively use Web search engine, it is quite time consuming task. After reviewing the web microforma...
  186. # [23:54] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Juraj * [[how to]] moved to [[how-to-brainstorming]]
  187. # [23:56] <Loqi> [[how-to-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=how-to-brainstorming&diff=45824&oldid=45822&rcid=59444 * Juraj * (+35)
  188. # [23:59] <Loqi> [[how-to-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=how-to-brainstorming&diff=45825&oldid=45824&rcid=59445 * Juraj * (+27)
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