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  1. # Session Start: Wed May 23 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  4. # [01:13] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/mezzoblue :: @bmann http://t.co/imA66Zy0 already exists for the other info.
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  6. # [01:37] <@tantek> rel="logo" seems redundant with rel="icon" - http://relogo.org/ - anybody have a clue about this or know the proposer?
  7. # [01:53] <mkowens> rel="icon" doesn't fit the need that they're describing. Additionally, it has tons of legacy usage as non-scalable ICO / PNG files, many of which are 16x16 (used as part of the rel="shortcut icon" syntax).
  8. # [01:53] <mkowens> While I don't know if this is the ideal implementation, I do think that having a rel for full-size logos (as opposed to favicons) is valuable.
  9. # [02:03] <@tantek> mkowens - it's trivial to use the 'type' attribute with "image/svg" and rel="icon" to solve that
  10. # [02:03] <@tantek> no need for a new rel for each new mimetype
  11. # [02:03] <@tantek> or dimensions
  12. # [02:03] <mkowens> No, but the intent of "icon" is to link an icon.
  13. # [02:03] <mkowens> This is specifically linking a logo.
  14. # [02:03] <mkowens> Sometimes they're the same, but rarely.
  15. # [02:04] <@tantek> if you're going to try to make a semantic distinction like that, then pages don't have logos. companies do.
  16. # [02:04] <@tantek> in which case, hCard solves that problem with the "logo" property
  17. # [02:04] <mkowens> No argument there. That's why I said I don't know if it's the correct implementation, but having some sort of rel for logos is valuable.
  18. # [02:05] <@tantek> as tweeted by mezzoblue ^^^
  19. # [02:05] <mkowens> I do believe that hCard's logo property is the "right" way to do it.
  20. # [02:05] <@tantek> I haven't seen any use-cases that show that a *rel* for logos is valuable.
  21. # [02:05] <@tantek> and the fact that the rel-logo creator/page doesn't even reference hCard shows they didn't do their homework when it comes to researching if there were existing standards
  22. # [02:06] <mkowens> I don't disagree that they didn't do their research and probably just wanted a toy to grab SVG logos from sites with, but the idea itself is something that I'm not opposed to on principle.
  23. # [02:07] <@tantek> the idea of companies publishing their logo? sure.
  24. # [02:07] <@tantek> for a "toy to grab SVG logos from sites", just get rel="icon" type="image/svg"
  25. # [02:12] <@tantek> apparently added to existing-rel-values this past 11/24 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=44990&oldid=44989
  26. # [02:15] <@tantek> correction: use rel="icon" with type="image/svg+xml"
  27. # [02:16] <@tantek> it's easy to forget about that +xml part ;)
  28. # [02:16] <mkowens> Nice
  29. # [02:17] <Loqi> [[rejected-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=rejected-formats&diff=46392&oldid=35444&rcid=60192 * Tantek * (+367) reject Logo, use rel=icon type="image/svg+xml" instead, or hCard "logo" for logo semantics
  30. # [02:23] <Loqi> [[rejected-formats]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=rejected-formats&diff=46393&oldid=46392&rcid=60193 * Tantek * (+220) expand reasons for rejection of rel-logo
  31. # [02:25] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=46394&oldid=46189&rcid=60194 * Tantek * (-44) reject "logo", no need for a new rel value for a specific content type "SVG", use rel=icon type="image/svg+xml" instead
  32. # [02:34] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/microformats :: @mezzoblue @bmann indeed. rel=logo unnecessary for SVG logos. use existing: rel="icon" type="image/svg+xml" or hCard for more structure. ^@t
  33. # [03:18] <Loqi> [[buttons]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=buttons&diff=46395&oldid=44037&rcid=60195 * Tantek * (+291) entry-title, autotoc, note spread-microformats
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  69. # [09:31] <Loqi> [[hahaahahahhahahhaha para refinance info here mas nochesita xD]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hahaahahahhahahhaha_para_refinance_info_here_mas_nochesita_xD&rcid=60196 * MartynaEsposito * (+2145) New page: [[Image:refinance_info_here_2324.jpg|thumb|]] Soooo how long until Stone flame one of these females on the TL on my grind cuz times is harder than a cellar floor. Esto
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  84. # [12:27] <Loqi> countdown started ;)
  85. # [12:41] <Loqi> [[get-started]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=get-started&diff=46398&oldid=44122&rcid=60200 * Hanhseoer * (-5149) asiatica travel
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  118. # [20:15] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=46403&oldid=46397&rcid=60205 * Tantek * (-26392) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Rundll|Rundll]] ([[User talk:Rundll|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:MSC79|MSC79]]
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  131. # [21:22] <Loqi> [[el dia en social bookmarking service q los cerdos vuelen]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=el_dia_en_social_bookmarking_service_q_los_cerdos_vuelen&rcid=60213 * UkrainianRussianShields * (+3574) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_2522.jpg|thumb|]] my baby is on the waaaaay homeeee . it's alright! Any fan of TW and Ed Sheeran gets a follow from me! :P xx 17 :D go
  132. # [21:25] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/CMS_Made_Simple :: Aktuelles Foren-Thema "[GELÖST] CompanyDirectory: Template für hcard" http://t.co/DjjHiO5r
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  137. # [21:43] <Loqi> [[Entonces decidi prestarle toda la saga para que le social bookmarking service entienda]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Entonces_decidi_prestarle_toda_la_saga_para_que_le_social_bookmarking_service_entienda&rcid=60216 * EdsonJimenez9 * (+5093) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_2690.jpg|thumb|]] Capitals will pick 11th. They picked Mojo, Carlson, and Kuznetsov
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  142. # [22:22] <Loqi> [[here have a drink and relax no social bookmarking service thanks I dont drink I said drink]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=here_have_a_drink_and_relax_no_social_bookmarking_service_thanks_I_dont_drink_I_said_drink&rcid=60219 * UliannaWaller * (+3437) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_2307.jpg|thumb|]] Followback Nein, wir erfahren es auch erst mit der Bekannt
  143. # [22:23] <aaronpk> that wikispam is getting weird
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  145. # [22:32] <Loqi> [[Too social bookmarking service many somethings in my last message lol]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Too_social_bookmarking_service_many_somethings_in_my_last_message_lol&rcid=60220 * FreddieUrban9 * (+5065) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_1736.jpg|thumb|]] SISMO 7.8 Richter 29 km al SUR de OMETEPEC, GRO 20/03/12 12:02:50 Lat 16.42 Lon -98.36 Pf 15 km | Tr
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  148. # [22:45] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/zeratulsgrave :: Tweet to your friends to get free hcards! iOS: http://t.co/bCCvHq5u Android: https://t.co/v7mON42T #rageofbahamut @rageofbahamut
  149. # [22:59] <Loqi> [[The Madrid derby should be a belter The Valencia game was the best 00 Ive seen If this is half as good well social bookmarking service be OK Pressure is on]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Madrid_derby_should_be_a_belter_The_Valencia_game_was_the_best_00_Ive_seen_If_this_is_half_as_good_well_social_bookmarking_service_be_OK_Pressure_is_on&rcid=60221 * MoiraFitzgerald * (
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  151. # [23:20] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/revoltpuppy :: @StanGrabowski Heading with nested <time> and hcard microformat if you want to get fancy.
  152. # [23:23] <Loqi> [[VAMOS RODRIGO LA social bookmarking service QUE LO PARIOOOO]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=VAMOS_RODRIGO_LA_social_bookmarking_service_QUE_LO_PARIOOOO&rcid=60222 * AlvinaFeldman * (+3374) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_3915.jpg|thumb|]] SO GUYS, where will Dany Heatley take his talents next season? Let's place bets! and wtf is going on with your social me
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  155. # [23:50] <Loqi> [[I actually social bookmarking service dont remember haha I got it off the internet]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=I_actually_social_bookmarking_service_dont_remember_haha_I_got_it_off_the_internet&rcid=60223 * SorrowsUnderwood * (+3450) New page: [[Image:social_bookmarking_service_1504.jpg|thumb|]] No one asked for your opinion, so why do you feel the need to throw in
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