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  6. # [02:24] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=48442&oldid=48407&rcid=64057 * Tantek * (+168) /* parsing for implied properties */ imply photo from object data as well as img src (seems reasonable for extensibility, compatbility, author freedom of element choice for embedding an image)
  7. # [02:30] <Loqi> [[microformats2-implied-properties]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-implied-properties&diff=48443&oldid=48411&rcid=64058 * Tantek * (+367) object[data] works wherever img[src] does.
  8. # [02:32] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=48444&oldid=48442&rcid=64059 * Tantek * (+52) /* parsing for implied properties */ object root also works for implying photo
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  29. # [05:24] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/SIVAPN :: Today Oct25:
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  34. # [05:25] <@tantek> WTF?
  35. # [05:29] <Loqi> [[User:suiypleihe]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:suiypleihe&rcid=64062 * Suiypleihe * (+4195) how can you not with the legal conflict
  36. # [05:29] <@tantek> !spammer SIVAPN
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  44. # [06:54] <Loqi> [[What a Excellent Tampa Criminal Lawyer Can Do For You3888408]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=What_a_Excellent_Tampa_Criminal_Lawyer_Can_Do_For_You3888408&rcid=64063 * LupezziwohxbnwBrazler * (+3361) New page: When you are going through a significant criminal scenario, it as greatest to retain the services of a criminal attorney as shortly as achievable. When are at the
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  47. # [09:01] <Loqi> [[Which Bikini To Wear On The Beach This Summer season]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Which_Bikini_To_Wear_On_The_Beach_This_Summer_season&rcid=64064 * Tfrancis75 * (+3402) In the 1950's there was a worldwide revolution that shook the globe. On beaches all over the planet heads had been becoming turned and queries had been raised about the decency of these skimpy things o
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  75. # [14:47] <Loqi> barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 10/24 at 2:26pm: 'value' is what the p-location is (which is a property) - there is no implied "name" property on a property.
  76. # [14:47] <Loqi> barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 10/24 at 2:30pm: look at the 2nd example here for how implied name properties work on nested microformats: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2#h-card_org_h-card
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  88. # [16:08] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/clivewalker :: @grabaperch How about "Reviews" app? Items reviewed with user comments. Similar to blog app in some ways but with hReview or similar
  89. # [16:15] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/FreeWSOdownload :: Free download: WSO - WP Author hReview (Plugin) http://www.freewso.info/wp-author-hreview-plugin/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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  94. # [16:57] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=48460&oldid=48404&rcid=64075 * Barnabywalters * (+1) /* simple microformats 2 examples */ Made JSON valid for Mitchell Baker example by adding comma after the note property
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  98. # [17:13] <barnabywalters> should there be a requirement to test/JSONLint the canonical JSON examples before posting them on the wiki?
  99. # [17:13] <barnabywalters> there are a whole load which are broken (currently fixing)
  100. # [17:17] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=48461&oldid=48460&rcid=64076 * Barnabywalters * (+18) /* combining microformats */ Fixed a load more broken JSON
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  111. # [17:53] <@tantek> barnabywalters - thanks for fixing the broken JSON examples.
  112. # [17:53] <@tantek> what's the best way to test them?
  113. # [17:53] <barnabywalters> http://jsonlint.com/
  114. # [17:53] <@tantek> ah, very nice
  115. # [17:53] <barnabywalters> it doesn’t produce *really* helpful error messages, but it does let you know if there’s a problem
  116. # [17:54] <@tantek> that's good enough for our purposes
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  123. # [17:54] <barnabywalters> actually, the fact that there were broken examples exposed a bug in phpunit, so it’s quite handy :)
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  141. # [17:56] <@tantek> barnabywalters, hah - that's funny. (re: phpunit bug)
  142. # [17:57] <barnabywalters> I’m currently adding support for classic microformats to php-mf2
  143. # [17:57] <@tantek> oh cool - did the equivalency tables help in the spec?
  144. # [17:57] <@tantek> hopefully that will be sufficient
  145. # [17:57] <barnabywalters> tantek: yep, that’s what I’m basing it off
  146. # [17:58] <barnabywalters> I’m just trying a find/replace of classic => new properties and seeing how far that gets me
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  153. # [18:13] <@tantek> barnabywalters - did you see the key point about *not* using the old class names if you see microformats2 equivalents?
  154. # [18:13] <@tantek> just want to make sure that you have a check for that
  155. # [18:14] <@tantek> because the idea is that if someone has *both*, they likely want new parsers to pick up only the microformats2 markup.
  156. # [18:14] <@tantek> seemed safer and more predictable that way for publishers.
  157. # [18:15] <barnabywalters> tantek: sure. as the extent of classic support is essentially a find/replace, it shouldn’t make any difference whether or not the input has classic, µf2 or both
  158. # [18:15] <barnabywalters> but if it causes problems or I actively start changing content to fit µf2, I’ll add in a proper check
  159. # [18:16] <@tantek> well a general find/replace would do the wrong thing in the "both" case
  160. # [18:17] <@tantek> you could see mixing of things like microformats2 root class names and classic microformats property names
  161. # [18:17] <@tantek> which could lead to *actual* false positives from other class names people use (the collisions people had with things like "summary" "description" etc.)
  162. # [18:19] <barnabywalters> tantek: it could also lead to false-negatives
  163. # [18:19] <barnabywalters> e.g. I’ve seen people using .h-* for things other than µf2
  164. # [18:19] <barnabywalters> (I need to find the source again and add it to the wiki)
  165. # [18:24] <@tantek> haven't seen any - that was part of the reason I picked the prefixes we have
  166. # [18:24] <barnabywalters> this looks like a case for Blekko’s grep the web ;)
  167. # [18:24] <barnabywalters> if I can’t find the example, that is
  168. # [18:25] <@tantek> I've been documenting here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2-prefixes#existing_single_letter_class_prefixes
  169. # [18:25] <@tantek> and only if it's widespread. if it's just a site/page or two, they're unlikely to notice anything or have anything break.
  170. # [18:26] <barnabywalters> I think the example was in a talk given by a CSS thought leader on best CSS practises
  171. # [18:26] <@tantek> examples in talks don't count :)
  172. # [18:27] <@tantek> if it's not being served by a live URL, then it's not a real world example
  173. # [18:27] <barnabywalters> if he’s teaching it, I would hope he’s using it himself!
  174. # [18:27] <barnabywalters> practise what you preach/dogfooding and all
  175. # [18:28] <@tantek> from my experience, those are rare
  176. # [18:28] <barnabywalters> heh
  177. # [18:28] <barnabywalters> he’s using the l-* prefix on his homepage: http://smacss.com/
  178. # [18:29] <barnabywalters> no sign of h-* there
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  180. # [18:29] <@tantek> no sign of |-* in his main.css either
  181. # [18:29] <@tantek> so meh
  182. # [18:30] <barnabywalters> really? weird
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  209. # [19:54] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Tantek * [[json]] moved to [[old-json-serializations]]: Now out of date and obsoleted by canonical JSON as defined in [[microformats2]]
  210. # [20:00] <Loqi> [[json]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=json&diff=48466&oldid=48465&rcid=64109 * Tantek * (+567) draft
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