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  3. # [00:09] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/wilkieii :: @SeanTAllen that's the real issue. and they freaking overlap. hCard, hResume... ALPS... who decides on what describes identity? @dansitu
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  11. # [01:03] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=49013&oldid=48652&rcid=65282 * Tantek * (+256) /* HTML5 link type extensions */ add rel=hub as defined in PubSubHubbub spec (and published/implemented in practice)
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  19. # [02:11] <Loqi> [[Durusma izlenimimheyeti gozlemim neticesinde sunu soyleyeyim siz anlayin Cuma caglayana gelmeyen cimbomlu olsun Tarihi bir gorev http://www.javapassage.com/2012/11/you-too-can-benefit-from-a-foot-pads-detox-system/ var]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Durusma_izlenimimheyeti_gozlemim_neticesinde_sunu_soyleyeyim_siz_anlayin_Cuma_caglayana_gelmeyen_cimbomlu_olsun_Tarihi_bir_gorev_http://
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  42. # [05:57] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=49020&oldid=48996&rcid=65300 * Solarpanella * (-5468)
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  87. # [13:21] <ChiefRA> tantek do we have a proprietary microformats validator?
  88. # [13:21] <ChiefRA> how about microformats2?
  89. # [13:22] <@tantek> not sure what you mean by proprietary - as it wouldn't make sense to have a proprietary validator AFAIK
  90. # [13:22] <@tantek> does http://microformats.org/wiki/validators answer your question?
  91. # [13:31] <ChiefRA> no.
  92. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> been there already.
  93. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> the thing is:
  94. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> proprietary means our own.
  95. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> I mean an official validator
  96. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> hosted on microformats.org.
  97. # [13:32] <ChiefRA> something made like the Optimus.
  98. # [13:33] <ChiefRA> which returns a clear answer of what's wrong with the implementations.
  99. # [13:34] <ChiefRA> If someone wish to implement different versions of microformats, it will be an important step forward if they can verify that their implementations are at least microformats.org valid.
  100. # [13:35] <@tantek> proprietary usually means private/owned and has negative connotations in standards.
  101. # [13:35] <@tantek> I think you just mean "hosted"
  102. # [13:35] <@tantek> or like you said, "official" and "service"
  103. # [13:36] <ChiefRA> yep :)
  104. # [13:36] <@tantek> for now, I'd say BarnabyWalters' php-mf2 parser is quite good
  105. # [13:36] <@tantek> but we don't really have anything that is "official" status yet
  106. # [13:37] <ChiefRA> can you give me the link to it please?
  107. # [13:37] <ChiefRA> or tell me its name on the http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
  108. # [13:37] <@tantek> it is
  109. # [13:37] <ChiefRA> is it backwards compatible with mf1?
  110. # [13:38] <@tantek> I think he's adding backwards compatible support per the way it is specified in the microformats2 specification
  111. # [13:38] <@tantek> http://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2/
  112. # [13:39] <ChiefRA> thanks. It sais on the page that it currenlty supports only hCard and hEntry
  113. # [13:40] <@tantek> my understanding is that the way it's built it will be easy for him to add more
  114. # [13:40] <@tantek> so just ask for what you're looking for
  115. # [13:40] <@tantek> and mention barnabywalters by name :)
  116. # [13:40] <ChiefRA> :))
  117. # [13:41] <ChiefRA> do you intend to start a project related to an "officiel" microformats validator?
  118. # [13:41] <ChiefRA> it would be useful.
  119. # [13:41] <@tantek> not sure what you mean
  120. # [13:42] <@tantek> any decent/conformant parser could be a "related project"
  121. # [13:42] <ChiefRA> ok I'll explain.
  122. # [13:42] <ChiefRA> let's presume you're a normal user/developer etc and you decided to implement microformats.
  123. # [13:42] <@tantek> both barnabywalters and glennjones are working on parsers, so you should make any specific parser/ validator requests
  124. # [13:42] <@tantek> and mention them
  125. # [13:43] <@tantek> existing "hosted" validators are mentioned on the validators page
  126. # [13:43] <ChiefRA> you come here on microformats.org and the first thing you wish is to understand what is microformats, how to implement and WHERE to check if your implementation is correct.
  127. # [13:43] <Loqi> microformats is not a farm link
  128. # [13:44] <@tantek> ChiefRA - the getting started page covers all that
  129. # [13:44] <ChiefRA> yup :)
  130. # [13:44] <ChiefRA> but the validators in my opinion needs an "official" validator.
  131. # [13:44] <ChiefRA> I mean, I was using a lot Optimus
  132. # [13:45] <ChiefRA> the thing is, right now, I don't have a validator to tell me what's wrong in a code.
  133. # [13:45] <ChiefRA> I won't mention microformats-2/
  134. # [13:46] <ChiefRA> but I'll talk to Barnaby and glennjones
  135. # [13:47] <ChiefRA> and see if we can add more formats
  136. # [13:49] <ChiefRA> tantek the link you gave me, http://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2/ is not added on the validators page.
  137. # [13:51] <@tantek> huh - thought those had been added
  138. # [13:52] <@tantek> ChiefRA - please feel free to write-up suggestions here also for an official validator: http://microformats.org/wiki/validators#validator_project
  139. # [13:55] <Loqi> [[validators]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=validators&diff=49023&oldid=46839&rcid=65306 * Tantek * (+298) microformats2 validator
  140. # [13:56] <@tantek> the way we'll add any more "formats" explicitly for backward compatibility will be to document how microformats2 parsers should support them, as we have for the individual vocabularies here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#v2_vocabularies
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  142. # [14:05] <@tantek> ChiefRA - in general, it's a good idea to create such official hosted services for microformats
  143. # [14:05] <@tantek> like we have h2vx.com for converting hCards to vCards, and hCalendar to iCalendar
  144. # [14:09] * barnabywalters reads scrollback
  145. # [14:10] <barnabywalters> ChiefRA: yep, php-mf2 currently only has limited backwards compatibility with mf1.
  146. # [14:10] <barnabywalters> at the moment it’s extremely rudimentary. I make arrays of mf1 => mf2 classnames, and replace any of the mf1 classnames with it’s mf2 equivalent
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  148. # [14:11] <barnabywalters> whether or not I make it any more advanced will depend on how well it works (so for quite nicely) and how much demand there is
  149. # [14:11] <barnabywalters> but I’ll certainly add more matching tables for other existing microformats
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  155. # [14:35] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/AygySays :: @PolinaSobakina ус штуканы) pursuit of happiness, hcard, please don't go.
  156. # [14:35] <Loqi> Завтра ещ сделаю))
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  167. # [15:07] <ChiefRA> barnabywalters hey. It is a neccesarry tool IMHO
  168. # [15:07] <ChiefRA> to be able to verify if your implementation is it semantically correct
  169. # [15:08] <ChiefRA> If you need feedback regarding how it should look, I'm more than glad to be of help.
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  223. # [19:47] <Loqi> http://twitter.com/BrankicaU :: Author hReview plugin - save 30% - use code FAMOUS
  224. # [19:47] <Loqi> http://authorhreview.com/
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  234. # [21:10] <Loqi> [[Elimination Chamber tnight live in Debt Help Milwaukee GET READY]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Elimination_Chamber_tnight_live_in_Debt_Help_Milwaukee_GET_READY&rcid=65313 * EllaBooth8 * (+1856) New page: [[Image:Debt_Help_2950.jpg|thumb|]] Debt relief has literally helped 1000s of people on the road to be free from debt, therefore it can help you too. Find out how im
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  238. # [21:27] <mwunsch> hello
  239. # [21:27] <mwunsch> https://github.com/mwunsch/prism
  240. # [21:27] <mwunsch> I'm blowing some dust off prism, how far along is the microformats 2 work?
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