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  11. # [01:32] <Loqi> [[User:yhulbh53]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:yhulbh53&rcid=66244 * Yhulbh53 * (+4504) Nike High Heels For Women ” he said again
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  17. # [02:16] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/InZineArticles :: The hCard Offers Local Savings with Rally Point Sport Grill http://inzinearticles.com/the-hcard-offers-local-savings-with-rally-point-sport-grill/
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  42. # [08:44] <ChiefRA> happy new year everyone :)
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  55. # [09:34] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=49468&oldid=49013&rcid=66259 * MikeSmith * (-354) link for proposed rel=publisher is not to a spec (only to an example); anyway, it's a value that was dropped prior to HTML4, and already listed in the "dropped" section of this page
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  57. # [09:35] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=49469&oldid=49452&rcid=66260 * Tantek * (-131) none of the contact info is marked up on heatingrepairkaty; looks like a spam site. Undo revision 49452 by [[Special:Contributions/Lwagon|Lwagon]] ([[User talk:Lwagon|Talk]])
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  68. # [09:41] <Loqi> [[User:MikeSmith]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:MikeSmith&rcid=66271 * MikeSmith * (+160) New page: <div class="vcard"> <span class="fn">Michael[tm] Smith</span> <span class=email>[mailto:mike@w3.org mike@w3.org]</span> </div> ---- {{cc-public-domain-release}}
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  82. # [12:20] <Loqi> [[Track Text Messages Software might be the solution to a diverse range of problems for Parents, Managers and others.9027149]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Track_Text_Messages_Software_might_be_the_solution_to_a_diverse_range_of_problems_for_Parents%2C_Managers_and_others.9027149&rcid=66272 * ElwoodndfjdsbibmYuska * (+115) New page: Track Text Messages Software might be t
  83. # [12:25] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/InZineArticles :: It is the Season to Give and Receive! YES! Receive Mobile Apps Powered by The hCard! http://inzinearticles.com/it-is-the-season-to-give-and-receive-yes-receive-mobile-apps-powered-by-the-hcard/
  84. # [12:25] <Loqi> #localbusiness
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  93. # [15:13] <iSRAELi> hello
  94. # [15:13] <iSRAELi> :D
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  115. # [18:33] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/InZineArticles :: The hCard and More is in Store for ’13 http://inzinearticles.com/the-hcard-and-more-is-in-store-for-13/
  116. # [18:33] <Loqi> #localbusiness
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  128. # [19:19] <JonathanNeal> What would you guys say is the best "for dummies" document about micro formats? I'd really love to add more information about accessibility and useful publishing semantics @ https://github.com/jonathantneal/website-checklist - this is a checkist I'm assembling of thoughts and questions I ask myself before building a website.
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  130. # [19:25] <@tantek> JonathanNeal, Emily Lewis's book is excellent.
  131. # [19:25] <@tantek> http://www.amazon.com/Microformats-Made-Simple-Emily-Lewis/dp/0321660773
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  136. # [19:45] <@KevinMarks> so is this FTC consent decree an attack on hReview? http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2013/01/google.shtm
  137. # [19:46] <@KevinMarks> 'The FTC investigated allegations that Google misappropriated content, such as user reviews and star ratings, from competing websites in order to improve its own vertical offerings, such as Google Local and Google Shopping. Some FTC Commissioners were concerned that this conduct might chill firms’ incentives to innovate on the Internet.'
  138. # [19:48] <JonathanNeal> thanks tantek, though I would hope to use resources that could be freely redistributed.
  139. # [19:48] <JonathanNeal> I get weary of accidentally plagiarizing a copyrighted work.
  140. # [19:49] <@tantek> Emily Lewis also blogs a lot about microformats on her own site - and I'm sure if you ask nicely you can excerpt fairly large quotes.
  141. # [19:49] <@tantek> she's great to work with.
  142. # [19:49] <JonathanNeal> Nifty. Thanks. I'll look her up on the internets.
  143. # [19:49] <JonathanNeal> http://emilylewisdesign.com/ tada
  144. # [19:50] <@tantek> KevinMarks - that's just a critique of one application of hReview, not the format.
  145. # [19:50] <@tantek> JonathanNeal - yes :)
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  147. # [19:52] <iSRAELi> ?
  148. # [19:52] <iSRAELi> well
  149. # [19:53] <iSRAELi> i just hate how they investigate google
  150. # [19:53] <iSRAELi> google is not the UN
  151. # [19:53] <iSRAELi> its an organisation
  152. # [19:53] <iSRAELi> if the people dont want, they can use bing or whatever
  153. # [19:53] <iSRAELi> no one MUST use google
  154. # [19:54] <iSRAELi> if they remove the stars and microformats support ill kill myself
  155. # [19:54] <iSRAELi> :\
  156. # [20:03] <Loqi> [[hcard-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&diff=49472&oldid=49469&rcid=66275 * Lwagon * (+548) /* new and uncategorized examples */
  157. # [20:03] <iSRAELi> hehe
  158. # [20:03] <iSRAELi> i can add like 20 completed hcard clients
  159. # [20:03] <iSRAELi> :)
  160. # [20:04] <@tantek> KevinMarks, will be interesting to see if any of the search requirements affect the #schema oligopoly / antitrust behavior.
  161. # [20:04] <iSRAELi> in the hcard in the wild
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  163. # [20:21] <JonathanNeal> how would that ftc consent effect microformats at all?
  164. # [20:29] <@tantek> JonathanNeal - it wouldn't because microformats totally open.
  165. # [20:29] <@tantek> as opposed to #schema, which has questionable patent wording, and is run by a search oligopoly
  166. # [20:30] <iSRAELi> yes, but websites will stop using microformats beacuse they dont support google
  167. # [20:30] <iSRAELi> ...
  168. # [20:30] <@tantek> Google supports microformats because so many websites already do use them.
  169. # [20:30] <@tantek> And they'll continue to do so, just like they support HTML.
  170. # [20:30] <iSRAELi> i know, but if this claim will make them stop preffering the,
  171. # [20:30] <iSRAELi> them
  172. # [20:31] <@tantek> microformats are part of the empirical web platform that's actually in use in the wild, so its in everyone's incentive to support them.
  173. # [20:31] <iSRAELi> so companies like where i work wont waste their employers time on this
  174. # [20:31] <@tantek> they never claimed to "prefer" them
  175. # [20:31] <@tantek> or any rich snippets
  176. # [20:31] <@tantek> it was always just about display
  177. # [20:31] <@tantek> not ranking
  178. # [20:31] <@tantek> iSRAELi, the point is, people supported/published microformats BEFORE google supported them, and even if google stops, people will continue publishing microformats. there are plenty of other uses.
  179. # [20:32] <@tantek> search engines are late adopters.
  180. # [20:32] <@tantek> / followers
  181. # [20:32] <iSRAELi> i know, and i hope microformats will be here in html10!
  182. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> but for example, my boss will notallow me "spending" half of my work-day optimizing websites with microformats
  183. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> ..
  184. # [20:33] <@tantek> iSRAELi - then we should make it much easier for you to do so with tools etc., so it takes you less time :)
  185. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> hehe
  186. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> no its fine!
  187. # [20:33] <@tantek> :D
  188. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> let me "waste" my time
  189. # [20:33] <iSRAELi> :D
  190. # [20:34] <iSRAELi> i cant really use tools cause its already built websites
  191. # [20:34] <iSRAELi> im just editing them very specificly
  192. # [20:37] <iSRAELi> how about defining google-map url
  193. # [20:37] <iSRAELi> and youtube
  194. # [20:37] <iSRAELi> :P
  195. # [20:37] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/newtron :: anybody seen a good vcard/hcard implementation w/ markdown?
  196. # [20:37] <iSRAELi> i dislike using schema, but they support it :\
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  198. # [20:56] <@tantek> iSRAELi - if you find areas where we need to improve microformats (to use instead of schema), definitely let the channel/community know!
  199. # [20:58] <iSRAELi> i do
  200. # [20:58] <iSRAELi> youtube information (justlike schema shows)
  201. # [20:58] <iSRAELi> and google maps identifier (url identifier for the iframe)
  202. # [20:59] <iSRAELi> i wish i had your type of knowledge so i could create pages and brainstorming
  203. # [21:00] <@tantek> youtube information? like a "video" for the item instead of just a "photo"?
  204. # [21:00] <@tantek> Google doesn't seem to do anything with the "google maps identifier (url identifier for the iframe)" - so until they do, it doesn't make sense to add it.
  205. # [21:01] <iSRAELi> they do
  206. # [21:01] <iSRAELi> i can showyou example, one second
  207. # [21:02] <iSRAELi> wait i have 100 clients
  208. # [21:02] <iSRAELi> i implanted on 1-2
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  210. # [21:06] <iSRAELi> i just cant find the specific webpage
  211. # [21:08] <iSRAELi> anyway
  212. # [21:08] <iSRAELi> webmaster tools rich snippet can identify it
  213. # [21:08] <iSRAELi> :S
  214. # [21:09] <iSRAELi> <meta itemprop="duration" content="T1M33S" />
  215. # [21:10] <iSRAELi> <meta itemprop="url" content ="foo-fighters-rope.html">
  216. # [21:10] <iSRAELi> and google actually recognize it via webmaster tools
  217. # [21:10] <iSRAELi> so it does for the map
  218. # [21:10] <iSRAELi> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fartprints.co.il%2Fcontact.html&;html=
  219. # [21:11] <iSRAELi> check out the last one
  220. # [21:11] <iSRAELi> it says
  221. # [21:11] <iSRAELi> map: and the link
  222. # [21:11] <iSRAELi> shows exactyly the same for the video
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