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  18. # [00:53] <Loqi> [[how-to-start-new-translation]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=how-to-start-new-translation&diff=49537&oldid=46254&rcid=66416 * Nemo bis * (+503) +Translate extension
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  70. # [14:41] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/JI_PutraNatta :: Jadi pengen..-__- *masukin list..hReview: HTC One X+, SuperPhone Yang Sempurna - http://www.tabloidpulsa.co.id/review/6121-review-htc-one-x-superphone-yang-sempurna
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  72. # [15:11] <Loqi> [[Great New Children Picture Books For Early Readers3491490]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Great_New_Children_Picture_Books_For_Early_Readers3491490&rcid=66420 * OrenzkjladwccfMacintosh * (+421) New page: The Adventures of [http://www.adventuresofjackandmax.com Jack and Max] early reader [http://www.adventuresofjackandmax.com childrens picture books] are great as read
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  87. # [17:16] <gjones> @tantek got a version of rel=* working in parser http://microformat2-node.jit.su/api?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F&callback=&formats=rel
  88. # [17:17] <gjones> I have flattened xfn into a single rel collection, you can see how it works better by viewing the test page http://microformat2-node.jit.su/rel.html
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  122. # [20:16] <@tantek> gjones - that's certainly an interesting approach to parsing the rels. I'm still uncertain about including rel values as part of microformats, but let's try experimenting with your approach and see how it goes.
  123. # [20:22] <gjones> Did you also note the parsing of rel=* into the children collection of any root that warps them. I did this mainly to recapture hCard-xfn pattern. Not sure that it is needed as its only commonly used with rel=me
  124. # [20:22] <@tantek> gjones - yeah, it is typically only used with rel=me, and in that, it's only really been codified in one place - the representative hCard algorithm: http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard
  125. # [20:22] * barnabywalters checks out gjones’s rel parsing approach
  126. # [20:23] <@tantek> I agree that it is not clear that it is needed.
  127. # [20:23] <@tantek> If anything I'd prefer to have it as an optional/experimental feature in the parser rather than default.
  128. # [20:23] <@tantek> So we can play with it, but not have it be an expectation for other parsers.
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  130. # [20:24] <gjones> I think the main reason to do this is a degree of backwards compatibility i.e. rel=tag on event, recipes etc - otherwise we could lose a bit of data
  131. # [20:25] <@tantek> gjones - do you know any specific sites that would need that?
  132. # [20:26] <@tantek> the examples I've seen use class="category" to markup user visible categories instead
  133. # [20:26] <@tantek> or in addition to rel-tag
  134. # [20:26] <@tantek> I'm not sure we'd actually lose much if anything by dropping rel=tag on events etc.
  135. # [20:26] <@tantek> I'd rather try without it, and see what happens
  136. # [20:26] <@tantek> document *actual* problems, rather that worry about what might theoretically break
  137. # [20:26] <gjones> Your right it all comes down to how much people use rel=* - what about xfn it has heavy use
  138. # [20:27] <@tantek> xfn has heavy use - but at the page level
  139. # [20:27] <@tantek> not inside hCard
  140. # [20:27] <@tantek> hence my brainstorm thoughts for parsing all the rel values only at and for the page level
  141. # [20:27] <@tantek> at the root
  142. # [20:27] <@tantek> and not putting them "inside" any microformats
  143. # [20:30] <gjones> I would be happy for page level. - I will switch root level off
  144. # [20:33] <gjones> I do this, I think we need to address a mapping rel= properties from V1 to V2 where they have been used rel=bookmark to u-url on a hentry for example
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