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  20. # [02:24] <Loqi> [[User:hzkfdvb4c]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:hzkfdvb4c&rcid=66423 * Hzkfdvb4c * (+3487) louis vuitton nàlés fébàmy 143
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  31. # [05:42] <Loqi> [[Texas Home Insurance Policy Cash Saving Suggestions]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Texas_Home_Insurance_Policy_Cash_Saving_Suggestions&rcid=66429 * Icramseur27 * (+3248) Numerous of us attempt to conserve funds from our salaries, but with the reduced curiosity rates, how beneficial is this? For a sore throat, butter mixed with ginger and sugar makes a comforting healing
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  33. # [06:25] <Loqi> [[User:jjdgtsd27ze]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:jjdgtsd27ze&rcid=66430 * Jjdgtsd27ze * (+3521) Ralph Lauren UK 5453
  34. # [06:26] <Loqi> [[User:jjdgtsd27ze]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:jjdgtsd27ze&diff=49544&oldid=49543&rcid=66431 * Jjdgtsd27ze * (+3500) /* Ralph Lauren UK 6325 */ new section
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  38. # [07:48] <iSRAELi> hi
  39. # [07:48] <iSRAELi> can i define multiple hProduct in one product page
  40. # [07:48] <iSRAELi> ?
  41. # [07:48] <iSRAELi> i have this thing http://www.smartmaster.co.il/Default.asp?sType=0&PageId=77222
  42. # [07:53] <iSRAELi> never mind i found it on hListing and not hProduct
  43. # [07:53] <iSRAELi> :D
  44. # [07:54] <iSRAELi> man i love microformats schema just makes you wanna suicide
  45. # [08:01] <iSRAELi> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smartmaster.co.il%2FDefault.asp%3FsType%3D0%26PageId%3D77222&;html=
  46. # [08:01] <iSRAELi> check it out :)
  47. # [08:02] <Loqi> [[User:hathaw13g17]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:hathaw13g17&rcid=66432 * Hathaw13g17 * (+2877) for most consumers for most of the year
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  49. # [08:05] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/InZineArticles :: The hCard Offers Local Savings with Rally Point Sport Grill http://inzinearticles.com/the-hcard-offers-local-savings-with-rally-point-sport-grill/
  50. # [08:05] <Loqi> #localbusiness
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  54. # [08:46] <iSRAELi> tantek
  55. # [08:46] <iSRAELi> hi
  56. # [08:46] <iSRAELi> building hListing http://www.smartmaster.co.il/Default.asp?sType=0&PageId=77222
  57. # [08:46] <iSRAELi> :)
  58. # [08:47] <iSRAELi> is there a way to define main item category?
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  61. # [09:14] <Loqi> [[Texas Home Insurance Policy Cash Saving Suggestions]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Texas_Home_Insurance_Policy_Cash_Saving_Suggestions&diff=49546&oldid=49542&rcid=66433 * ChiefRA * (-3248) removed spammy content
  62. # [09:14] <Loqi> [[User:jjdgtsd27ze]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:jjdgtsd27ze&diff=49547&oldid=49544&rcid=66434 * ChiefRA * (-7021) removed spammy content
  63. # [09:15] <Loqi> [[User:hathaw13g17]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:hathaw13g17&diff=49548&oldid=49545&rcid=66435 * ChiefRA * (-2877) removed spammy content
  64. # [09:52] <Loqi> [[User:hathaw13g17]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:hathaw13g17&diff=49549&oldid=49548&rcid=66436 * Hathaw13g17 * (+3093) /* Can you imagine Suh in a Saints uniform */ new section
  65. # [10:05] <Loqi> [[User:Claudette]] NM http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Claudette&rcid=66437 * Claudette * (+232) New page: There is nothing to tell about me I think.<br>Lovely to be a member of this community.<br>I really hope I am useful in some way .<br><br>Take a look at my page; [http://www.youtube.com/wat...
  66. # [10:07] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/m4d13 :: Memperbaiki Missing Required hCard "Author": Sama halnya dengan Missing Required Field "Updated", peringatan yan... http://wadahtutorial.blogspot.com/2013/01/memperbaiki-missing-required-hcard.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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  71. # [10:42] <Loqi> [[User:jjdgtsd27ze]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:jjdgtsd27ze&diff=49551&oldid=49547&rcid=66438 * Jjdgtsd27ze * (+3517) /* Cheap Ralph Lauren 8784 */ new section
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  73. # [12:57] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49552&oldid=49408&rcid=66439 * GlennJones * (+99) /* h-event */ add duration property to list has it is enough used in h-resume ie Linked-in and 60 madgex sites
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  76. # [13:42] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49553&oldid=49552&rcid=66440 * GlennJones * (+1977) /* h-recipe */ Added a h-recipe section. This needs review and comment
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  78. # [14:10] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=49554&oldid=49252&rcid=66441 * Mesbah76435 * (+1593) How to take care of your baby
  79. # [14:11] <Loqi> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=49555&oldid=49395&rcid=66442 * Mumudede * (+228)
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  82. # [14:13] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=49556&oldid=49554&rcid=66443 * Mesbah76435 * (+41) /* Introduction */
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  87. # [14:34] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=49560&oldid=49556&rcid=66447 * ChiefRA * (-1593) Undo revision 49554 by [[Special:Contributions/Mesbah76435|Mesbah76435]] ([[User talk:Mesbah76435|Talk]]) =>removed spammy content
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  89. # [14:37] <ChiefRA> lots and lots of spammers... I'm sick of them.
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  102. # [16:57] <Loqi> [[Wealth creation Ideas instructions Steps to make Money by simply Sharing Files Along with ShareCash3989856]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wealth_creation_Ideas_instructions_Steps_to_make_Money_by_simply_Sharing_Files_Along_with_ShareCash3989856&rcid=66450 * BocsbeiuihytChernosky * (+2682) New page: First, allow me to ask you this kind of: Maybe you have sent information
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  104. # [17:22] <Loqi> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=49564&oldid=49562&rcid=66451 * ChiefRA * (-38) Undo revision 49562 by [[Special:Contributions/Alisveris|Alisveris]] ([[User talk:Alisveris|Talk]]) => removed spam content
  105. # [17:22] <Loqi> [[Wealth creation Ideas instructions Steps to make Money by simply Sharing Files Along with ShareCash3989856]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wealth_creation_Ideas_instructions_Steps_to_make_Money_by_simply_Sharing_Files_Along_with_ShareCash3989856&diff=49565&oldid=49563&rcid=66452 * ChiefRA * (-2682) removed spam content
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  107. # [17:31] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/DagmarBleasdale :: trying to get Google+ to verify my authorship is maddening. How do I fix hCard problems? #google+ #coding
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  113. # [18:07] <Loqi> [[microdata]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microdata&diff=49566&oldid=43152&rcid=66453 * TomMorris * (+468) adding parsers and tools section, mostly borrowed from schema.rdfs.org; copied here so it can be kept up-to-date
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  118. # [18:24] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/CLCLCL :: あれですね、Googleの検索結果で著者情報出させるためにhcardとかしこしこ作るじゃないですか。それをfooter要素に入れると、ウェブマスターツールで「メインコンテンツに入れなさい」って言われて永遠に表示されないんですよね。google文書構造まで見てやがる
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  133. # [20:24] <Loqi> [[html5]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=html5&diff=49567&oldid=44152&rcid=66454 * Tantek * (+102) /* time element */ pubdate has been dropped and other updates to the time element
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  148. # [20:31] <Loqi> [[hreview-examples-in-wild]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hreview-examples-in-wild&diff=49569&oldid=49561&rcid=66469 * Tantek * (+228) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/ChiefRA|ChiefRA]] ([[User talk:ChiefRA|Talk]]) to last version by [[User:Mumudede|Mumudede]]
  149. # [20:32] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/block]] unblock * Tantek * unblocked User:Mumudede: referenced page actually did contain hReview
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  152. # [20:36] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49570&oldid=49553&rcid=66471 * Tantek * (+16) h-recipe fixes/tweaks
  153. # [20:39] <@tantek> barnabywalters - did you see that gjones added hRecipe to the microformats2 vocabs?
  154. # [20:40] <@tantek> it's pretty good: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-recipe
  155. # [20:40] <@tantek> might want to consider adding that to your microformats2 parser too
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  158. # [20:45] <barnabywalters> tantek: I did not. I’ll add the compatibility tables to phpmf2
  159. # [20:46] <@tantek> nice
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  161. # [20:47] <iSRAELi> :D
  162. # [20:47] <iSRAELi> guyssssss
  163. # [20:47] <iSRAELi> have u watched my new hListing website?
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  182. # [23:40] <@tantek> iSRAELi - what was your experience like with using hListing on your pages?
  183. # [23:49] <tommorris> tantek: on an unrelated note, Wikivoyage has just officially launched - Wikimedia Foundation's version of the slowly dying Wikitravel. there are rumblings about getting some microformats added to the pages. Possibly hCard and/or hReview, and geo.
  184. # [23:49] <@tantek> excellent - certainly let me know if there are opportunities here to represent richer data beyond existing microformats
  185. # [23:50] <@tantek> hoping this can be an opportunity to deploy microformats2's simpler markup as well
  186. # [23:50] <tommorris> only problem is that the addresses are unformatted. but things like businesses having names, phone numbers and locations
  187. # [23:50] <tommorris> we're still running around like kids let loose in a candy store, so it might be a little while before we start adding microformats
  188. # [23:50] <@tantek> unformatted addresses do seem to occur often enough to be worth of some sort of markup
  189. # [23:50] <@tantek> hCalendar has the "location" property
  190. # [23:51] <@tantek> which is unstructured
  191. # [23:51] <tommorris> so, we have some pseudo-XML for this...
  192. # [23:51] <tommorris> <eat name="" alt="" address="" directions="" phone="" email="" fax="" url="" hours="" price="">{comments}</eat>
  193. # [23:51] <@tantek> if there's sufficient evidence of venues with unstructured addresses, it may be worth considering adding "p-location" to h-card, with the same semantic it already enjoys in h-event
  194. # [23:52] <@tantek> that way we can use "h-adr" for structured addresses, and "p-location" for unstructured addresses - or even both together.
  195. # [23:52] <@tantek> barf on that pseudo-xml - yikes
  196. # [23:52] <tommorris> it's only used internally. it gets rendered into HTML.
  197. # [23:52] <@tantek> sad that whoever designed that found it more useful to add "fax" than to structure the address. sheesh.
  198. # [23:53] <tommorris> an example:
  199. # [23:53] <@tantek> and presumably their "hours" attribute is a mess? or does it conform to OSM opening hours?
  200. # [23:53] <tommorris> <sleep name="Dan Panorama Haifa Hotel" address="107 Hanassi Avenue" phone="+972-3-520-2552" email="Reservations-T.PanoramaHaifa@DanHotels.com" fax="+972-3-548-0111" checkin="" checkout="" url="http://www.danhotels.com/HaifaHotels/DanPanoramaHaifaHotel/">Rises high above Mount Carmel, offering good views of Haifa bay and miles of coastline. The hotel is directly linked to a shopping mall.</sleep>
  201. # [23:53] <tommorris> it's a mess.
  202. # [23:53] <@tantek> yeah - go XML for propagating messes in an even harder to read format
  203. # [23:53] <@tantek> sleep is the tag? wtf?
  204. # [23:53] <tommorris> the whole wiki is a mess. but there is an opportunity for us to fix some of the mess.
  205. # [23:54] <@tantek> sleep sounds like an activity
  206. # [23:54] <@tantek> that is so bassackwards
  207. # [23:54] <@tantek> "sleep" is just *one* of the things you might do at a hotel
  208. # [23:54] <tommorris> yeah sleep = hotel, see = attraction, do = activity, eat = restaurant/cafe, buy = shop, drink = pub/bar. all are basically subclasses of 'location'
  209. # [23:54] <@tantek> this XML looks like someone's weekend drunk brainfart
  210. # [23:54] <tommorris> yup, it pretty much is.
  211. # [23:54] <tommorris> and it's only pseudo-XML. it gets embedded in Wikitext.
  212. # [23:55] <tommorris> because, you know, it's not like we already have Wikitext markup language.
  213. # [23:55] <tommorris> template language rather
  214. # [23:55] <tommorris> it's pseudo-XML in the same way that Wikipedia's <ref name=""></ref> tag is.
  215. # [23:56] <tommorris> the price attribute is marvellous. like, how much is the "price" of a hotel room? depends on the room. the price of a drink in a bar? depends on the drink. the price of a meal in a restaurant? depends on what you order.
  216. # [23:59] <@tantek> how much data is in this format? why not convert it and ditch this horrible pseudo-xml brainfart?
  217. # Session Close: Wed Jan 16 00:00:00 2013

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