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- # [00:13] <tommorris> tantek: not sure, will have a look shortly
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- # [03:28] <tommorris> tantek: if I can get adminship, I'll share some of the spam workload.
- # [03:31] <@tantek> thanks tommorris - yes I'll ping a few of the other admins to get some more +1s on that ;)
- # [03:33] * tommorris is now an admin on wikipedia, outreach.wikimedia.org, en.wikinews.org, rationalwiki.org, wikiqueer.org and wiki.linkedgov.org and haven't yet broken anything major.
- # [03:34] * tommorris is such a wikislut.
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- # [03:54] <tommorris> tantek: regarding wikivoyage, the reason for the pseudo-XML is because way back in the dark midsts of time, MediaWiki thought that was the best way to extend the syntax. there is a discussion about getting rid of them, and a possibility we may have to get rid of them for forwards-compatibility.
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- # [09:00] <Loqi> [[Ga apahmmm marah RT Ngk kok mbk Boong coins online lg knblng boongan marah RT Ehehe]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ga_apahmmm_marah_RT_Ngk_kok_mbk_Boong_coins_online_lg_knblng_boongan_marah_RT_Ehehe&rcid=66499 * ChristLeblanc * (+1340) New page: [[Image:coins_online_764.jpg|thumb|]] Dakota Fanning is on the cover of Cosmopolitan Mexico. Check out the scans: é criticas
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- # [09:17] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/webmarketing_dk :: Referencement Google: ADWORDS UTILISE OFFICIELLEMENT LES MICROFORMATS HREVIEW - Seller Rating... http://www.googleadwords.fr/campagne-google-adwords/adwords-utilise-officiellement-les-microformats-hreview/ #referencement
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- # [11:28] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/grabaperch :: @k_smth Probably the simplest way is to us hCalendar and H2VX http://h2vx.com/ics/
- # [11:29] <Loqi> [[Wow this track is on fire Marcan Ent is st john villas for rent going hard]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wow_this_track_is_on_fire_Marcan_Ent_is_st_john_villas_for_rent_going_hard&rcid=66506 * AllieChappell * (+2414) New page: [[Image:st_john_villas_for_rent_3437.jpg|thumb|]] ai dps vo coloca musica beeem alto aqui pq to afim si acabo de entrar he dicho buenas noches
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- # [12:46] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49587&oldid=49570&rcid=66508 * GlennJones * (+1929) /* h-review */ Added h-review section. This needs review and comment
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- # [15:47] <@tantek> gjones - the h-review contribution to the microformats2 vocabularies looks pretty good!
- # [15:48] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49595&oldid=49588&rcid=66532 * Tantek * (+0) /* v2 vocabularies */ sort
- # [15:49] <gjones> Yes I think it works OK dropped rel*- tag, permalink and license. - I am work on h-review-aggregate at moment
- # [15:50] <@tantek> am making minor tweaks to h-review
- # [15:51] <gjones> Thinking that h-review-aggregate should flatten out fn (url | photo) from item into the main properties collection ?
- # [15:52] <gjones> It would be great to gets these reviewed, thought it would help adding them to the page as check the mappings on the parser
- # [15:52] <@tantek> yes I'm reviewing them right now
- # [15:53] <@tantek> only one nit in the h-review description so far - "best" can actually be *lower* than "worst" - it's how you represent an inverse scale (as some countries tend to in reviews). e.g. 1 for best, and 5 for worst.
- # [15:56] <@tantek> and I'm adding the property equivalents for tag and permalink
- # [15:57] <@tantek> also, one of the struggles I was having with converting hReview was converting the item subproperties
- # [15:57] <@tantek> I think we may need to create a simple h-item vocabulary just to handle those minimal subproperties (name, url, photo etc.)
- # [16:00] <gjones> I had an h-items in the mapping and took it out. Just wanted to flatten the properties and get around the fact the review schema has no name(fn) property so the parser captures the whole text and adds that as the name
- # [16:02] <@tantek> I'll write one up, I think we need an h-item for simple h-reviews
- # [16:06] <gjones> OK I will add it back in the parser again.
- # [16:06] <@tantek> the nice thing is, the implied microformats2 rules for the "name", "photo", and "url" properties will make most h-items not require any explicit properties.
- # [16:06] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49596&oldid=49595&rcid=66533 * Tantek * (+785) /* h-review */ fix best/worst (allow range inversion), add properties equivalent to previous rel usage, back compat for items and rel values inside reviews
- # [16:07] <gjones> Yes I saw that in action building the test for h-review the other day
- # [16:14] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49597&oldid=49596&rcid=66534 * Tantek * (+1196) /* v2 vocabularies */ add h-item for h-review usage
- # [16:14] <@tantek> ok, there's h-item - should be pretty straight-forward. please review: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-item
- # [16:17] <@tantek> gjones - I'll stop touching the uf2 page for a bit - so you can add your work on h-review-aggregate
- # [16:17] <@tantek> bbiab
- # [16:20] <gjones> Looking at the h-item is not as simple I you first think because its not a true uf root. The mapping for V1 i.e. look for a class called "item" picks up a lot of stuff. I need to
- # [16:21] <@tantek> note the backward compat paragraph is different for h-item than others
- # [16:22] <@tantek> a class called "item" should only be looked for *inside* an "hreview" - nowhere else
- # [16:22] <@tantek> (for backward compat)
- # [16:22] <@tantek> otherwise, you're right, it's likely a class called "item" anywhere else will pick up a lot of stuff.
- # [16:25] <@tantek> also, we should probably check some hReview examples in the wild to see if any actually *need* backward compat parsing of "item", or if they're all depending on the implied item when there's an "fn", "photo", "url" inside an "hreview".
- # [16:25] <@tantek> if we can drop parsing of "item", we should
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- # [16:30] <@tantek> (I'll make a note of that on the wiki page)
- # [16:33] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49598&oldid=49597&rcid=66535 * Tantek * (+807) /* v2 vocabularies */ we should drop parsing of "item" if we can.
- # [16:35] <gjones> With h-review would the author have to add both the classes "p-item h-item"
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- # [16:36] <@tantek> if they wanted more structure than just the name of the item, yes
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- # [16:36] <@tantek> gjones, sorry about that. what I mean is:
- # [16:37] <@tantek> if the author just wants to name the item, e.g. a veggie burrito, they can just use p-item, e.g. <span class="p-item">veggie burrito</span>
- # [16:37] <@tantek> that works just fine
- # [16:37] <@tantek> if however they want to provide a photo or URL of the veggie burrito, then they'd need to add h-item
- # [16:39] <@tantek> e.g.
- # [16:40] <gjones> Yes this counts a full new pattern for the parser. Up until now its look for a property and root pair, to add a h-* into the properties collection i.e. "p-author h-card" or p-reviewer h-card" item is a property on it own
- # [16:41] <@tantek> <a class="p-item h-item" href="http://flic.kr/p/6g4AX"><img alt="veggie burrito" src="http://farm1.staticflickr.com/26/59521279_6d3b22d672_t.jpg" /></a>
- # [16:42] <@tantek> do you mean backward compat pattern?
- # [16:42] <@tantek> because all those can be properties on their own, e.g. <span class="p-author">John Doe</span> etc.
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- # [16:48] <gjones> Yes its the presents for the second class i.e. h-* root that tells me how to build the JSON either as a string or as a nested microformat. In V1 "item" is used as a class on its own to create a nested microformat, breaks the current rules of the parser
- # [16:50] <gjones> Question is p-item a new type of property that always creates a nested h-item even if that h-item class in not in the class list
- # [16:56] <@tantek> no - there is no new type of property
- # [16:56] <@tantek> ok, perhaps to keep it simple we should drop the "item" parsing altogether then because i think it is confusing you
- # [16:57] <@tantek> and if it's confusing you, it's likely to confuse other implementers as well
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- # [17:02] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49600&oldid=49598&rcid=66539 * Tantek * (-1515) /* v2 vocabularies */ move back-compat parsing of "item" class name to brainstorming to capture it until we can determine whether it is necessary.
- # [17:02] <Loqi> [[microformats2-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-brainstorming&diff=49601&oldid=48173&rcid=66540 * Tantek * (+1904) move back-compat parsing of "item" class name to brainstorming to capture it until we can determine whether it is necessary.
- # [17:03] <@tantek> gjones, hopefully that helps
- # [17:04] <@tantek> p-item is no different than p-author in that regard
- # [17:04] <@tantek> p-author DOES NOT automatically create a nested h-card
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- # [17:04] <@tantek> in the same way, p-item DOES NOT automatically create a nested h-item
- # [17:07] <gjones> Let me look at this for a while, I understand the how it should work, it just breaks the current parsing rules I have built.
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- # [17:08] <@tantek> hopefully this makes it simpler
- # [17:09] <@tantek> (less code, etc.)
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- # [18:20] <iSRAELi> tantek
- # [18:20] <iSRAELi> so you have asked about my expirience with hListing
- # [18:20] <iSRAELi> well it was kinda easy, but i had to define <span class hlisting> each time
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> it was an actual list of objects
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> ITEM --> price
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> it was an actual list of objects
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> bla
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> sec
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> ITEM --> price
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> ITEM --> price
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> ITEM --> price
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> ITEM --> price
- # [18:21] <iSRAELi> but i had to redefine the class each time
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- # [18:30] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/InZineArticles :: Your NEW Year can mean savings with The hCard! http://inzinearticles.com/your-new-year-can-mean-savings-with-the-hcard/
- # [18:30] <Loqi> #localbusiness
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- # [19:14] <Loqi> [[recipe-examples]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=recipe-examples&diff=49603&oldid=41641&rcid=66544 * John5 * (+748) Added biscotti recipe
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- # [19:35] <@tantek> iSRAELi - could you provide a URL to an example where you had to "define <span class hlisting> each time" in "an actual list of objects" ?
- # [19:35] <@tantek> bbiab
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- # [19:44] <iSRAELi> tantek
- # [19:44] <iSRAELi> sup
- # [19:44] <iSRAELi> have a look
- # [19:45] <iSRAELi> http://www.smartmaster.co.il/Default.asp?sType=0&PageId=77222
- # [19:45] <iSRAELi> check the upper side
- # [19:45] <iSRAELi> the first table
- # [19:47] <iSRAELi> i yet to find google to read my page, when it does ill check how it index it, and ill do it for the rest of the page
- # [19:47] <iSRAELi> also the html code there sucks and it took me some time to sort it out
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