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  52. # [13:26] <Loqi> [[User:Genomma Lab Web]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Genomma_Lab_Web&rcid=66747 * Juanfernandocena * (+4547) New page: ==Genomma Lab- An In Depth Cоmрanу Prоfіlе== Genomma Lab іs rеallу а 100% Mеxіcаn busіnеѕѕ which іѕ dеdicatеd to а dіscоverіng сutting еdge wеll bеіng аnd w...
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  103. # [20:38] <barnabywalters> in case it’s of interest to anyone, I made an article documenting the various experimental markup and microformats I am currently publishing: http://waterpigs.co.uk/articles/experimental-markup
  104. # [20:39] <@tantek> ooh
  105. # [20:39] <@tantek> barnaby - awesome!
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  107. # [20:40] <@tantek> that is a great post barnabywalters
  108. # [20:41] <barnabywalters> tantek: thanks. Thought I should probably solidify what I’m doing. I’ll add opinions/reasoning as I go along
  109. # [20:41] <@tantek> how did your talk go?
  110. # [20:41] <barnabywalters> very well thanks. I was surprised by just how few people had even *heard* of microformats (3 out of a roomfull of ~20)
  111. # [20:42] <barnabywalters> but my intro to µf2 was well-received, with at least one person going away to cover their site with them
  112. # [20:42] <@tantek> great!
  113. # [20:42] <@tantek> be sure to post a link to your slides to the event wiki page when you get a chance
  114. # [20:42] <barnabywalters> and I have some other conclusions from discussing it with others afterwards which I am writing into an article
  115. # [20:43] <barnabywalters> tl; dr: Most people only care about µf for the SEO benefits, and looks like google is really pushing schema.org (boo) in that area. For people to really get the full benefits of µf, we need some compelling services and applications which consume them
  116. # [20:44] <barnabywalters> oh, I had an idea RE the slides…
  117. # [20:44] <barnabywalters> was thinking of marking them up as an h-feed, with relative dt-published values. Then an audio element could automatically advance them based on timeupdate events
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  119. # [20:45] <barnabywalters> that would certainly be a candidate for my “experimental” markup. In fact, I’ll add a "WIP" section
  120. # [20:47] <Loqi> [[events/2013-01-24-exeter-web-meetup]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2013-01-24-exeter-web-meetup&diff=49717&oldid=49700&rcid=66761 * Barnabywalters * (+103) /* Details */ Added link to slides
  121. # [20:49] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=49718&oldid=49682&rcid=66762 * Tantek * (+733) /* Examples in the wild */ document Barnaby Walters's support of microformats2 on his site
  122. # [20:50] <@tantek> barnabywalters - for the SEO benefits, people can use the well established microformats for that. They're simpler to use than wading through all the schema.org crap (tons of useless objects and properties), and easier to maintain and make forward compatible with microformats2.
  123. # [20:50] <@tantek> that should be an FAQ
  124. # [20:51] <barnabywalters> tantek: outcome of talking to some SEO specialists was that schema.org is typically richer than µf2 (= more complicated methinks)
  125. # [20:57] <@tantek> so what do they mean by richer? more properties and objects? yes that means more complicated. more to learn, more to charge for, dubious if any benefit.
  126. # [20:58] <@tantek> also - they're confusing vocabulary (schema) and syntax (uf2)
  127. # [20:58] <barnabywalters> I think the "richer" example the SEO guy gave was some microdata ecommerce vocab vs h-product
  128. # [20:59] <@tantek> was there any benefit demonstrated? how the rich snippet is displayed etc.?
  129. # [20:59] <@tantek> it's trivial to show that yes you can add more markup to fool yourself into thinking you're making it richer
  130. # [20:59] <barnabywalters> not AFAIK
  131. # [21:00] <@tantek> but if that doesn't translate into a user visible result (the whole point of SEO supposedly) then it's not actually richer
  132. # [21:00] <@tantek> they're confusing "richer" (actually, just more work) markup (schema.org documentation), with a richer end user result. only the latter matters, not the former.
  133. # [21:00] <@tantek> that should also be an FAQ
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  140. # [21:44] <barnabywalters> tantek: how about suggesting microformats as a challenge for an upcoming moz dev derby?
  141. # [21:48] <@tantek> is there a particular upcoming moz dev derby that you suggest?
  142. # [21:53] <barnabywalters> not particularly, I don’t know how the topics are decided on — presumably they’re decided by the judging panel or some other mozillans
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