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  69. # [14:03] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/SEOQA :: Can Google show the hReview-Aggregate microformat in the SERPs on a product page if the reviews themselves are on a sepa... ...
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  90. # [16:04] <siyu> Hey any1 here? :)
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  94. # [16:27] <@tantek> welcome siyu
  95. # [16:27] <siyu> hi tanek
  96. # [16:27] <siyu> got 5 minutes for me? :)
  97. # [16:27] <siyu> *tantek
  98. # [16:40] <@tantek> siyu - go ahead and ask whatever #microformats related questions you'd like to - you never know who's listening and may be able to answer, whether me or someone else.
  99. # [16:40] <siyu> kk a moment
  100. # [16:43] <siyu> i have implemented the hreview-aggregate snippet to my site. in the testing tool it works fine but it does not appear anywhere else (it is online since 2months)
  101. # [16:43] <siyu> i am nut sure anymore wether the code is correct or not
  102. # [16:44] <siyu> i posted it here: http://snipt.org/zUk3
  103. # [16:44] <siyu> are there mistakes in it? =P
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  105. # [16:49] <@tantek> siyu - it looks correct, and especially with the testing tool saying it works fine.
  106. # [16:50] <@tantek> there's no reliable way to tell if/when Google (or any other search engine) will actually show a rich snippet for any particular page.
  107. # [16:50] <siyu> mhh fine
  108. # [16:50] <siyu> but i am sure now that the code is correct
  109. # [16:50] <siyu> i wondered if that was the issue
  110. # [16:50] <@tantek> perhaps share the URL to see if we can find other mistakes?
  111. # [16:51] <siyu> sure
  112. # [16:51] <siyu> http://www.legal-musik-downloaden.de/news/eels-wonderful-glorious
  113. # [16:51] <siyu> its german but wont bother you i think :)
  114. # [16:59] <@tantek> I notice that the rich snippet is separate from the actual visible information - was there a reason to duplicate the data?
  115. # [16:59] <@tantek> You should just be able to markup the visible content that you already have
  116. # [16:59] <Loqi> yea
  117. # [16:59] <@tantek> with the hreview-aggregate microformat
  118. # [17:00] <@tantek> there should be no need to duplicate your content like that (which I'm assuming you're hiding with CSS - that might explain why it's not showing up as a rich snippet)(
  119. # [17:02] <siyu> mhhh
  120. # [17:03] <siyu> i had the problem that i wanted to youse the h1 as item fn
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  122. # [17:03] <siyu> and since im just allowed to have 1 hreview-aggregated i put it under the h1 again
  123. # [17:04] <@tantek> the page only has one aggregate review, so you might as well put it on the body
  124. # [17:04] <siyu> it actually isnt hidden: i have used that <span class="average"><span class="value-title" title="4.5"></span></span>
  125. # [17:04] <@tantek> but it *is* duplicated
  126. # [17:04] <siyu> yes it is :p
  127. # [17:04] <ChiefRA> siyu not showing it within the page, has the same meaning: it's hidden. :)
  128. # [17:04] <siyu> aww
  129. # [17:05] <ChiefRA> tantek is right: this is the only way that prevents Google to showing your rich snippets.
  130. # [17:05] <@tantek> you could mark up this instead: <span class="average-rating">Average: <span >4.5</span></span> - which is actually visible on the page already
  131. # [17:05] <ChiefRA> way=thing.
  132. # [17:05] <@tantek> as well as this: <span class="total-votes">(<span>2</span> votes)</span>
  133. # [17:05] <siyu> so i have to add the snippets to the stars rating on the bottom
  134. # [17:06] <@tantek> or rather, just mark up the content you already have on the page ;)
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  136. # [17:08] <siyu> would it be enought to change average rating and total-votes?
  137. # [17:08] <siyu> or do i need best and worst as parameter
  138. # [17:08] <@tantek> you only need best and worst as parameters if they're different from the defaults (5 and 1)
  139. # [17:09] <siyu> well i use default
  140. # [17:09] <@tantek> then you should be all set with those - no need to do extra work ;)
  141. # [17:10] <siyu> the only problem i now see is that i need the item fn from the h1 (which is on top) and the average and votes from the bottom
  142. # [17:10] <siyu> how to split that in the class hreview-aggregate
  143. # [17:11] <@tantek> you don't need to split it
  144. # [17:11] <@tantek> just put class="hreview-aggregate" on the <body>
  145. # [17:11] <@tantek> so it encloses both
  146. # [17:11] <siyu> so the hole body is class hreview-aggregate ?
  147. # [17:11] <@tantek> why not? the page is an aggregate review
  148. # [17:12] <siyu> mhh true
  149. # [17:13] <siyu> ok so i learned hidding was the problem for not appearing in serps
  150. # [17:13] <siyu> ^^
  151. # [17:18] <siyu> <span class="total-votes" >(<span>2</span> votes)</span> can i simply add class="votes" here or are double classes not liked ?
  152. # [17:20] <siyu> another thing: having it dublicated is no problem as long as it is not hidden
  153. # [17:20] <siyu> right?
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  155. # [17:30] <@tantek> the class attribute can take any number of classes separated by whitespace
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  157. # [17:33] <siyu> <span class="votes">(<span>1</span> vote)</span>
  158. # [17:33] <siyu> this would do it eh? =P
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  160. # [17:47] <siyu> tantek
  161. # [17:47] <siyu> i changed it
  162. # [17:47] <siyu> http://www.legal-musik-downloaden.de/news/eels-wonderful-glorious
  163. # [17:47] <siyu> is it fine like that?
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  165. # [17:58] <siyu> ChiefRa can you have a final look too? :)
  166. # [18:02] <Loqi> [[hrecipe]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hrecipe&diff=49879&oldid=49842&rcid=67105 * Tantek * (+177) /* Implementations */ Recipe SEO WordPress Plugin publishes hRecipe
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  168. # [18:11] <siyu> Tantek gone? =)
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  170. # [18:25] <siyu> just wondering about the description appearing
  171. # [18:25] <siyu> but should not bother
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  173. # [18:33] <siyu> thanks a lot i have to leave :) my come back 2morrow
  174. # [18:33] <siyu> bay
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