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  8. # [01:34] <aaronpk> tantek: i'm trying to add mf2 to my h-entry's, getting a bit stuck on the geo properties
  9. # [01:36] <aaronpk> i'm not sure what to put in p-geo, or whether p-latitude and p-longitude are supposed to be direct descendants of the h-entry or are supposed to be nested in the p-geo
  10. # [01:36] <aaronpk> also how can I show the place name but leave the lat/lng in invisible properties?
  11. # [01:37] <@tantek> aaronpk - best to start with a specific example with the visible data you want to mark up
  12. # [01:37] <@tantek> URL?
  13. # [01:38] <aaronpk> http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/04/19/1/travel
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  15. # [01:38] <aaronpk> currently I have "Portland, OR, USA" visible, with the lat/lng invisible
  16. # [01:41] <@tantek> ooh - I see you put the lat/long in the title of the abbr - not the best thing for listenability
  17. # [01:42] <@tantek> is the lat long actually correctly precise?
  18. # [01:42] <@tantek> if so - you could incorporate it into a gmaps link
  19. # [01:43] <@tantek> or a gmaps embedding with <object> tag, and then inside the object tag you can have the fallback plain text lat/long (which would only be visible to folks if/when the <object> didn't render
  20. # [01:44] <aaronpk> hmm
  21. # [01:45] <aaronpk> maybe I'll just drop the lat/lng for now
  22. # [01:45] <aaronpk> that was based on mf1 markup
  23. # [01:47] <@tantek> yeah - we can do better
  24. # [01:48] <@tantek> for the "Portland, OR, USA" - you could (should) mark that up inside an h-adr
  25. # [01:48] <@tantek> like this
  26. # [01:49] <@tantek> <span class="h-adr"><span class="p-locality">Portland</span>, <abbr class="p-region" title="Oregon">OR</abbr>, <abbr class="p-country-name" title="United Stats of America">USA</abbr></span>
  27. # [01:49] <aaronpk> ooh that would be nicer
  28. # [01:50] <@tantek> that way at least your h-entry will automatically have an h-adr child in the JSON and that could be used implicitly until we figure out how to best extend h-entry
  29. # [01:50] <@tantek> to represent the multiple notions of location that are present in posts
  30. # [01:51] <aaronpk> unfortunately right now I am not storing the locality/region/country separately. also I don't get "Oregon" and "United States of America" back from the geocoder, just the abbreviations
  31. # [01:52] <@tantek> ah, do you at least know if they are or aren't abbreviations even if you don't get back the expansions?
  32. # [01:52] <aaronpk> not currently :(
  33. # [01:52] <@tantek> ok
  34. # [01:53] <@tantek> you can parse out the components by looking for the first 2 commas as delimiters right?
  35. # [01:53] <@tantek> since city names don't have commas, nor do states
  36. # [01:53] <aaronpk> yes I suppose so, assuming I am always in the US
  37. # [01:53] <@tantek> even outside
  38. # [01:53] <aaronpk> sometimes the region or country may not be present
  39. # [01:53] <aaronpk> in which case I won't know which is which
  40. # [01:54] <@tantek> that's fine, you can detect that
  41. # [01:54] <aaronpk> probably I hsould store it better
  42. # [01:54] <@tantek> because there would be one fewer comma
  43. # [01:54] <aaronpk> since ultimately I do get locality/region/country back from the geocoder
  44. # [01:54] <aaronpk> tantek: yes but I won't know if the second element is a region or a country
  45. # [01:54] <@tantek> look it up in a country list to check isCountry()
  46. # [01:54] <@tantek> that's a trivial string array lookup
  47. # [01:55] <aaronpk> that's a hack! i should just store it better
  48. # [01:55] <@tantek> !isCountry then region
  49. # [01:55] <@tantek> it's a trivial 5 min hack :)
  50. # [01:55] <aaronpk> heh
  51. # [01:55] <@tantek> and likely a reusable function building block
  52. # [01:55] <aaronpk> here's an example http://pk.dev/notes/2012/12/01/3/kingsofcode
  53. # [01:55] <aaronpk> oops
  54. # [01:55] <@tantek> <span class="h-adr"><span class="p-locality">Portland</span>, <span class="p-region">OR</span>, <span class="p-country-name">USA</span></span>
  55. # [01:56] <aaronpk> http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2012/12/01/3/kingsofcode
  56. # [01:57] <@tantek> interesting - no country there
  57. # [01:57] <@tantek> just locality and region
  58. # [01:58] <aaronpk> yea, not sure why it doesn't know
  59. # [02:07] <@tantek> which geocoder are you using?
  60. # [02:07] <@tantek> can OSM be used for this?
  61. # [02:07] <aaronpk> i might give that a shot
  62. # [02:07] <@tantek> this is a transform from: lat/long -> named city, state/region, country
  63. # [02:08] <aaronpk> yes, reverse geocoding
  64. # [02:08] <aaronpk> not sure whose service to use though
  65. # [02:08] <aaronpk> mapquest runs one, so does geonames
  66. # [02:09] <aaronpk> oh also OSM runs one I guess, not sure what the TOS are
  67. # [02:09] <@tantek> I would presume the OSM TOS is the most open
  68. # [02:10] <aaronpk> not necessarily, they don't like to provide web services necessarily, just the data
  69. # [02:10] <aaronpk> mapquest runs a service using OSM data
  70. # [02:14] <aaronpk> unfortunately the geonames one doesn't look very good http://api.geonames.org/findNearestAddressJSON?lat=37.451&lng=-122.18&username=demo
  71. # [02:15] <aaronpk> mapquest (same as OSM) is better http://open.mapquestapi.com/nominatim/v1/reverse.php?format=json&lat=51.521435&lon=-0.162714
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