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- # [02:40] <zztw> are there any microformats meetups going on in SF lately?
- # [02:41] <zztw> http://microformats.org/wiki/meetup#San_Francisco seems a bit old
- # [02:42] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/events has the latest
- # [02:42] <Loqi> [[meetup]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=meetup&diff=52914&oldid=52427&rcid=72759 * Tantek * (+2) ws
- # [02:43] <Loqi> [[meetup]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=meetup&diff=52915&oldid=52914&rcid=72760 * Tantek * (+64) /* San Francisco */ for the latest
- # [02:43] <@tantek> zztw, I put a link to the latest at the top of that section so hopefully it's more discoverable
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- # [02:51] <zztw> cool, i just figured out how to view the calendar in Thunderbird/Lightning ... google calendar said it couldn't view due to robots.txt exclusion
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- # [02:59] <Loqi> [[berivan on social www.onlinepharmacymd.com media Lol roj bas D]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=berivan_on_social_www.onlinepharmacymd.com_media_Lol_roj_bas_D&rcid=72761 * MyroslavaHope * (+1083) New page: [[Image:www.onlinepharmacymd.com_4522.jpg|thumb|]] SEO is Just Marketing. Deal With It. by searchcongress Hola mamacita dueña de loveies.... ( live on I'm just worrie
- # [03:06] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/CrunchyHub :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [03:29] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/xtof_fr :: #microformats2 & HTML5
- # [03:29] <Loqi> La Prochaine Étape Évolutionnaire pour le Web de Data
- # [03:29] <Loqi> [Vidéo] par @t
- # [03:29] <Loqi> http://christopheducamp.com/blog/b/Hyv #mydata
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- # [04:32] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/TashiaPiraino :: RT @bbrian017 @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
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- # [05:23] <Loqi> [[User:oqfexg23433]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:oqfexg23433&rcid=72762 * Oqfexg23433 * (+3808) wedges shoes,wedges shoes jjy
- # [05:24] <Loqi> [[User:oqfexg23433]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:oqfexg23433&diff=52918&oldid=52917&rcid=72763 * Oqfexg23433 * (+4019) /* shoe shopping online,shoe shopping online yvp */ new section
- # [05:25] <Loqi> [[User:oqfexg23433]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:oqfexg23433&diff=52919&oldid=52918&rcid=72764 * Oqfexg23433 * (+3197) /* bcbg shoes,bcbg shoes zjc */ new section
- # [05:26] <Loqi> [[User:oqfexg23433]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:oqfexg23433&diff=52920&oldid=52919&rcid=72765 * Oqfexg23433 * (+3271) /* wholesale shoes,wholesale shoes hwv */ new section
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- # [05:36] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/davidsgallant :: LOL http://www.youhavezeroprivacy.com/hcard/ahJ5b3VoYXZlemVyb3ByaXZhY3lyDgsSB1Byb2ZpbGUYuHUM
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- # [07:06] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/flicktees :: RT @bbrian017 @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [07:11] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/TheAppTimes :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [07:31] <aaronpk> aw man, twitter doesn't mark up their page with microformats
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- # [07:46] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/Makewebworld :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [07:48] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/Martin_Cooney :: Chk this one: Review of Author hReview for Serious Bloggers http://www.cooney.com.au/review-of-author-hreview-for-serious-bloggers
- # [07:48] <Loqi> #authorrating
- # [08:18] <Loqi> [[User:sjwrw1q5]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:sjwrw1q5&rcid=72770 * Sjwrw1q5 * (+2037) Cheap Prom Dresses UK but this yearbr9sT0
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- # [08:21] <aaronpk> hmm how best to include geo data on an h-entry? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2#h-entry says to use h-geo, but that's not h-adr, is an h-adr on an h-entry ok?
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- # [08:22] <aaronpk> actually I may have to just fall back to p-geo for now since I'm not sure all the possible combination of values i'll get back from this data source
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- # [10:21] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/Techclickr :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [10:21] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/JackPlues :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
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- # [10:42] <Loqi> [[User:lebron97527]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:lebron97527&rcid=72771 * Lebron97527 * (+2179) The Nike Foamposite One Metallic Red Is Better To Run hu9
- # [10:43] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/youbihar :: RT @bbrian017 @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
- # [10:49] <Loqi> [[200 Cash Loan Today Small Amounts For Big Needs]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=200_Cash_Loan_Today_Small_Amounts_For_Big_Needs&rcid=72772 * Josephriley * (+2080) New page: £200 Cash Loan Today - Small Amounts For Big Needs <br/><br/><br/><br/>It is no longer a dumbfounding situation to be in when you do not have the cash to provide for your basic necessitie...
- # [10:52] <Loqi> [[Benefits of Payday Advance Loans]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Benefits_of_Payday_Advance_Loans&rcid=72773 * Josephriley * (+3553) New page: Benefits of Payday Advance Loans <br/><br/><br/><br/>With the use of Internet on your home or office computer, you can easily apply for payday advance loans online. The advancement in tech...
- # [10:55] <Loqi> [[200 Cash Loan Today Small Amounts For Big Needs]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=200_Cash_Loan_Today_Small_Amounts_For_Big_Needs&diff=52925&oldid=52923&rcid=72774 * Josephriley * (-5)
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- # [10:58] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/VtZ_ :: microformats2 & HTML5 : La Prochaine Étape Évolutionnaire pour le Web de Data http://christopheducamp.com/blog/microformats2-html5-la-prochaine-etape-evolutionnaire-pour-le-web-de-data-video-33-minutes/ via @francoisgoube
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- # [11:07] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/NTKOG :: RT @Marakana: #microformats2 & #HTML5: The Next Evolutionary Step For Web Data - @t of @Mozilla's video from @HTML5DevConf - http://t.c…
- # [11:08] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/ctrteacher :: *
- # [11:08] <Loqi> 2DAY
- # [11:08] <Loqi> PTM&BKK
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- # [11:09] <barnabywalters> woah, Loqi
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- # [11:31] <barnabywalters> morning from a snowy iceland, tommorris
- # [11:34] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/TNuutinen :: RT @Marakana: #microformats2 & #HTML5: The Next Evolutionary Step For Web Data - @t of @Mozilla's video from @HTML5DevConf - http://t.c…
- # [11:36] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/sokomillionaire :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
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- # [13:03] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/DG_N1nja :: @microformats just a heads up that the CSS-generated button link at http://microformats.org/wiki/buttons#hCard and http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Buttons is broken.
- # [13:26] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/FrugalEntrepren :: RT @blogengage @hishaman Author hReview the #hottest new plug-ins http://www.blogengage.com/blogger/enrich-your-product-reviews-with-author-hreview-plug-in/ to hit the #market #bloggers @FamousBloggers
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- # [14:11] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/lanyrdalert :: Video and Notes from "microformats2 & HTML5: The Next Evolutionary Step For Web Data" by @t http://lanyrd.com/2013/html5devconf-spring/scfrbg/ #h5m2 #html5devconf
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- # [22:20] <jgay> I would like to propose a new rel value to http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values can someone help me out?
- # [22:20] <jgay> Basically, I'm wondering which table I should add it to
- # [22:21] <jgay> But, I'm also hoping someone might be around to talk about it before I add it at all :-)
- # [22:22] <tommorris> jgay: the standard process is to document the need for it.
- # [22:23] <tommorris> existing-rel-values documents existing rel values. microformats process is collecting data on the need for things. it's inherently rather a conservative process, albeit a data-driven, scientific one. ;)
- # [22:23] <tommorris> sketch out what you are trying to do with reference to pages on the existing web
- # [22:24] <jgay> tommorris, ok, cool. So I have that, here, http://www.gnu.org/licenses/javascript-labels.html ... in this case it is rel=jslicense ... although I don't make the case on this page explicitly why I think rel=jslicense is sufficiently different from rel=license ... but I can do that
- # [22:27] <tommorris> so, the initial objection I'd have would be - what about non-JavaScript code?
- # [22:27] <jgay> tommorris, can you give me more things that are worth documenting while making my case for why it is useful?
- # [22:28] <jgay> tommorris, that is a great point!
- # [22:28] <tommorris> languages like coffeescript and dart and so on are transformed into JavaScript. plus, even things like CSS may reach the point of being copyrightable.
- # [22:28] <jgay> tommorris, right, that is a good point. And we have svg and other things
- # [22:29] <tommorris> things like the various CSS resets that people use are almost like code and are probably copyrightable. the same issue you'd face with wanting to rel-license would come with that.
- # [22:29] <tommorris> or mark the licensing rather.
- # [22:30] <tommorris> the other problem is that there's a coupling problem
- # [22:31] <tommorris> we haven't really solved coupling of metadata to objects very well in microformats yet
- # [22:31] <tommorris> like, we're still sort of tinkering with things like hMedia and images.
- # [22:31] <jgay> tommorris, so the primary thing we are trying to achieve is that when you are giving the user an executable program that we link to a resource that contains a triple of: program supplied to user AND license file AND corresponding source to program
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- # [22:32] <tommorris> tantek might be interested in this conversation. ;)
- # [22:33] <tommorris> jgay: so, ther'es potential for data to go stale
- # [22:33] <tommorris> like, let's say I'm using library X that is GPL2 licensed. so I make my javascriptlicense.html file
- # [22:33] <jgay> tommorris, I don't think I'm following the last couple things you said
- # [22:33] <jgay> ok, i'll follow the example
- # [22:34] <tommorris> then I switch and start using library Y which is GPL3 licensed. I'll obviously update the <script> tags in the page
- # [22:34] <tommorris> but it's very easy to forget to update the linked copyright attribution page
- # [22:35] <tommorris> in an ideal world, the JavaScript licesning information should be based on the data used in the script tags. ;)
- # [22:35] <tommorris> that data is heavily coupled.
- # [22:37] <jgay> tommorris, right, I'm with you on that ... and even then, you have another coupling problem, which is to provide corresponding source for minified code
- # [22:37] <jgay> tommorris, that is why our approach is to link to a page that contains triples of minified code, license, and source
- # [22:38] <jgay> tommorris, it's not elegant and I'm hping there are better approaches down the road :-)
- # [22:38] <tommorris> so, here's kind of why the process is useful - plonk together an example of that somewhere on the public web
- # [22:39] <tommorris> the page on gnu.org essentially is a proposal for one way of implementing technically the legal requirements you've suggested
- # [22:39] <tommorris> s/suggested/listed as being required of people using copyleft JS code/g
- # [22:39] <Loqi> tommorris meant to say: the page on gnu.org essentially is a proposal for one way of implementing technically the legal requirements you've listed as being required of people using copyleft JS code
- # [22:40] <tommorris> microformats works on a publish-first-standardise-later model.
- # [22:40] <tommorris> on existing-rel-values, once there is a few published pages with it on, it might be worth listing
- # [22:41] <tommorris> plus, you can use the microformats wiki to document the issue you are trying to solve (making visible the hidden license metadata of hidden elements of pages like JS and CSS).
- # [22:41] <tommorris> jgay: does that sorta answer the question?
- # [22:43] <jgay> tommorris, there are actually a fair number of pages and one or two firefox extensions relying-upon the rel tag already
- # [22:44] <tommorris> oh cool. do put them on the wiki then. ;)
- # [22:45] <jgay> tommorris, ok, great, this is very helpful ... although I feel like I am now back to my original question :-)
- # [22:46] <tommorris> if there's use on the web, you can put it on existing-rel-values.
- # [22:46] <tommorris> don't worry about screwing up formatting or anything like that. I can fix it or tantek or someone else will
- # [22:48] <jgay> ok, perfect. Should I also make a page on the wiki I link to to provide a longer description and example sites using it, etc?
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- # [22:49] <tommorris> yeah, maybe a page like license-software-brainstorming or something like that. ;)
- # [22:52] <jgay> tommorris, yeah that sounds good. I inherited this project ... otherwise I would have started it here before publishing it live and getting a bunch of sites to use it
- # [22:55] <jgay> tommorris, thanks again.
- # [22:55] <tommorris> jgay: no problem. good luck with it.
- # [22:56] <tommorris> with my Wikipedia admin hat on, I'd be interested to see what the legal situation is around Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike licensed JavaScript. we have some of that on Wikipedia.
- # [22:56] <tommorris> In fact, quite a lot of it. ;)
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- # [23:00] <@tantek> thanks tommorris!
- # [23:00] <@tantek> and yes - if there's a rel value proposed, PLEASE add a page for it on the wiki as well to describe any questions, issues, use in the wild etc.
- # [23:00] <@tantek> even just a stub
- # [23:01] <@tantek> here's an example of a rel-* page I created recently with a bunch of this information: http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-in-reply-to
- # [23:03] <jgay> tantek, ok, great.
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- # [23:12] <jgay> tommorris, are you aware of the mediawiki bug discussing licensing/source offers?
- # [23:14] <jgay> err, wikimedia bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36866
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- # [23:16] <jgay> tommorris, also, I'm happy to talk with you sometime CC BY SA licensed javascript. Feel free to PM me anytime or whatnot
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- # [23:38] <Loqi> [[rel-jslicense]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=rel-jslicense&rcid=72801 * Joshuagay * (+1391) I tried to follow an example of rel-in-reply-to page when making this one.
- # [23:38] <jgay> tantek, tommorris, ^^ I'll try to add it to the table now as well
- # [23:39] <@tantek> huh, interesting, just for external javascripts? e.g. not for other external resources?
- # [23:39] <@tantek> why not for external images for example?
- # [23:39] <@tantek> I don't particularly like the design myself, but if there's folks already make it work in practice ...
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- # [23:42] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=52934&oldid=52609&rcid=72802 * Joshuagay * (+220) added rel-jslicense but I am not sure if my link to a specification is valid or if I chose the right table
- # [23:44] <jgay> tantek, I think a more general spec would be nicer. There are people using it. It'd be nice to deprecate it's use in favor of something more general that has both source and license info
- # [23:44] <jgay> *its
- # [23:46] <jgay> tantek, maybe something like rel=src-license
- # [23:46] <jgay> if I change our recommendation and the firefox extension starts looking for a new rel tag, I think most of the sites that are currently using it will switch pretty quickly
- # [23:50] <jgay> ok, well hopefully this conversation can continue via wiki. I'm off for the night. Thank again for the help.
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