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  88. # [03:09] <Loqi> [[See how top showbiz pal seo services marvels at my vintage Clio]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=See_how_top_showbiz_pal_seo_services_marvels_at_my_vintage_Clio&rcid=72893 * EllaHammer8 * (+2084) New page: [[Image:seo_services_1998.jpg|thumb|]] In the world of SEO, there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. Here, we do SEO the right way, and we wonâ€
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  99. # [04:25] <Loqi> [[Useful information for buying automotive parts coming from web-based merchants]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Useful_information_for_buying_automotive_parts_coming_from_web-based_merchants&rcid=72894 * Ddrawe22 * (+4144) Locating these catalogues is actually even less challenging by using contemporary online innovations and may be done via your laptop. Buying is effortl
  100. # [04:29] <Loqi> [[User:kevinamyh]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:kevinamyh&rcid=72895 * Kevinamyh * (+2321) Cabas Vanessa Bruno transportant de l'essence &eacute
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  128. # [11:48] <Loqi> [[An Introduction To Effective Making Money Online Products]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=An_Introduction_To_Effective_Making_Money_Online_Products&rcid=72905 * Mjacelyn36 * (+3078) The review goes about numerous methods to opt for the suitable Hyip monitor. A great number of people use it when making up their mind where they can invest their cash.
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  139. # [12:39] <Loqi> [[How You Can Keep the Husband Happy Any Girl Is Capable of Doing This]] N http://www.microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_You_Can_Keep_the_Husband_Happy_Any_Girl_Is_Capable_of_Doing_This&rcid=72914 * Tyrellcarterkje * (+6938) New page: Quite often, interactions suffer because young lovers do not put the energy out to create the other person pleased. Producing the person in your life
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  143. # [13:41] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/WPDailyThemes :: Learn the benefits of using the Author hReview WordPress plugin - WP Daily Themes - http://www.wpdailythemes.com/plugin/benefits-of-author-hreview-wordpress-plugin/
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  146. # [13:53] <Loqi> [[Verhaal van zwemster Hinkelien Schreuder vlak voor WK breuk met coach Marcel Wouda en door technisch directeur Verhaeren small business accountants uit WKploeg gezet]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Verhaal_van_zwemster_Hinkelien_Schreuder_vlak_voor_WK_breuk_met_coach_Marcel_Wouda_en_door_technisch_directeur_Verhaeren_small_business_accountants_uit_WKploeg_gezet&rcid=72917 * Nat
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  174. # [16:01] <qirtaiba> Hello microformats experts, I am trying to format my blog with hentry, and it needs to have an hcard for my name. But I don't want to have my name on my blog. Is there any legal way of just *linking* to an hcard from the page rather than including it on the page?
  175. # [16:05] <qirtaiba> I can't just hide it with CSS either because - well, maybe this is a too obscure edge case, but it needs to render the same on non-CSS browsers
  176. # [16:06] <qirtaiba> You'll understand if you see the site, it's http://jere.my - it renders like that on lynx even
  177. # [16:06] <qirtaiba> for those of you who even remember what lynx is
  178. # [16:09] <tommorris> you don't have to use your legal name in the hCard
  179. # [16:09] <tommorris> you can use a nickname
  180. # [16:12] <tommorris> you might want to ask tantek about whether you need an hCard in your hAtom. don't know enough about hAtom to say for sure.
  181. # [16:16] <barnabywalters> qirtaiba: pretty much everything is optional in microformats, so there’s no requirement that your h-entries have p-author h-cards
  182. # [16:17] <qirtaiba> Thanks that's helpful
  183. # [16:18] <barnabywalters> qirtaiba: microformats are for visible data. There are ways you could add an h-card hidden even to HTML, but that’s dark data and not recommended
  184. # [16:18] <qirtaiba> There is a reference to "Nearest In Parent"
  185. # [16:18] <qirtaiba> seems that I can just put my name somewhere on the page and use that for my entries without putting my name in each entry
  186. # [16:18] <qirtaiba> so I figure I'll do that
  187. # [16:19] <barnabywalters> qirtaiba: yep, if you want to have a page-level h-card instead of one on each entry, that’s fine too
  188. # [16:19] <qirtaiba> Done, will test it now
  189. # [16:20] <barnabywalters> there is a way of defining a mf once then including it using the element ID, but IIRC only one parser supports it
  190. # [16:20] <qirtaiba> uh, is there something like a validator?
  191. # [16:20] <barnabywalters> I might have a go at adding it to php-mf2
  192. # [16:20] <barnabywalters> http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
  193. # [16:20] <qirtaiba> thanks
  194. # [16:23] <barnabywalters> qirtaiba: and if you want to add the include-pattern in anticipation that more parsers will use it, the docs are here: http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern
  195. # [16:23] <Loqi> [[Looking for http://www.yourenotstupid.com/cafe-cup-review/ a London gig Saturday are playing Water Rats Kings Cross Always a good party]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Looking_for_http://www.yourenotstupid.com/cafe-cup-review/_a_London_gig_Saturday_are_playing_Water_Rats_Kings_Cross_Always_a_good_party&rcid=72920 * HerefordCortez * (+2258) New page: [[Image:http://www.yo
  196. # [16:23] <qirtaiba> Only if I can't get it to work the other way, it's severely messed up my page so far, oops :-)
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  225. # [17:29] <ChiefRA> a nice weekend guys and girls ;)
  226. # [17:29] <tommorris> indeed.
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  248. # [19:30] <Alice> Hi All! I have a silly question. If I create a markup for any microformat, but render it inside of the block with display:none, will the crawler get data from it anyway?
  249. # [19:30] <hober> :(
  250. # [19:30] <hober> ideally, you'd mark up your visible data with microformats
  251. # [19:31] <hober> and not create a redundant piece of markup that you hide
  252. # [19:32] <Alice> Yes, I understand that ideally I need to reuse the markup, but what if I can't? Will the simple duplication work?
  253. # [19:34] <Alice> The concern is that I have a design of a page, that does not expose as much data as I can put into the microformat. Overwhelming the design with text is not a good option, so I'm looking for a bypass.
  254. # [19:35] <Alice> does hiding of mircoformst's segments prevents the crawler from getting the data from it?
  255. # [19:36] <Alice> I really tried to google it, but could not find an answer yet... :(
  256. # [19:38] <hober> well, "does not expose as much" implies that you want to mark up the visible bits with the microformat
  257. # [19:39] <hober> and then inside that markup, also include some additional bits that you hide
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  259. # [19:39] <hober> but you shouldn't duplicate the bits that are visible
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  261. # [19:39] <hober> sweet, summoning tantek worked
  262. # [19:39] <hober> tantek: any comments on the above?
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  268. # [19:43] <Alice> hober: many thanks for the explanation :-* It's good to know there is someone who is ready to help
  269. # [19:43] <hober> np
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  274. # [19:47] <@tantek> Alice, search engines / crawlers tend to frown on display:none content in general
  275. # [19:47] <@tantek> the short answer is, if some content doesn't fit into your visible design, then it's not worth microformatting it
  276. # [19:47] <@tantek> because visible content is the only content you can reasonably trust/expect to be correct / up to date
  277. # [19:48] <@tantek> invisible content tends to rot, get out of date, fail to be checked etc.
  278. # [19:48] <@tantek> so don't waste any time publishing invisible content - it's going to die anyway
  279. # [19:50] <@tantek> Alice, what did you try to search for when you say you "tried to google it"?
  280. # [19:50] <@tantek> here's the FAQ on the subject: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._Given_that_Google_now_looks_at_hidden_content_as_potential_spam.2C_will_invisible_microformats_be_considered_spam.3F
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  283. # [19:53] <Alice> oops... silly me... asked a question without checking for FAQ
  284. # [19:54] <Alice> tantek: Thank you very much for detailed explanation and the link :-* I supposed crawlers do not like display:none. Will mark up only visible content. Thanks again guys!
  285. # [19:54] <@tantek> Alice, no problem at all! FAQs are often hard to fine.
  286. # [19:54] <@tantek> *find
  287. # [19:54] <@tantek> but if you can look in your history to see what you googled for, I can try to make the FAQ more discoverable
  288. # [19:56] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/BinaryMoon :: Learn the benefits of using the Author hReview WordPress plugin http://wpvote.com/2013-04/wordpress-plugins/learn-the-benefits-of-using-the-author-hreview-wordpress-plugin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WordpressVote+%28WordPress+Vote%29 - #wordpress
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  290. # [20:00] <Alice> tantek: I was searching for "microformats hidden markup" and "microformats hidden". FAQ showed in the results, but the description under the link did not contain "hidden", so I assumed it is a false match.
  291. # [20:03] <@tantek> Alice - ok good to know. I can add another more specific FAQ about "microformats hidden markup" - that's a good search phrase to make discoverable
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  294. # [20:07] <Alice> Great, thank you! Hopefully it will be useful for other people in the field :-)
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