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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 30 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
  3. # [00:09] <Loqi> [[A Background In Effective Plans Of car insurance]] NM http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=A_Background_In_Effective_Plans_Of_car_insurance&rcid=74750 * CherylMon * (+2697) New page: Nationwide Mobile is really a helpful app which gives you helpful information on everything you'll need. The right policy can fix everything from investing in the repairs to providing you ...
  4. # [00:11] <@tantek> Rob-Peters - of course - go ahead!
  5. # [00:11] <@tantek> and welcome back :)
  6. # [00:12] <Rob-Peters> Thanks :-) really appreciate the help
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  8. # [00:15] <Rob-Peters> I've been looking more into the client's issue and it looks as though Google has indexed each mention in the revisions as a different link, is there anyway to remove the link from the old revisions? I'll explain why as it might be interesting :-) - basically the client's old consultant used a target keyword for the anchor text and as it's repeated through the archive it's created hundreds of links with that anchor text so
  9. # [00:15] <Rob-Peters> hope that makes sense :-)
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  11. # [00:19] <@tantek> Rob-Peters - that's very odd - Google should not be indexing the revisions
  12. # [00:20] <@tantek> we might have a problem on our end with nofollow or something
  13. # [00:20] <@tantek> but the short answer is that we can't modify the revisions really
  14. # [00:20] <@tantek> I mean, they're old *revisions*!
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  18. # [00:22] <Rob-Peters> sorry got disconnected
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  20. # [00:28] <Rob-Peters> thanks for the reply, yes thought it was strange, could email a set of links if it was of interest, but guessed it might be hard to change. Would there be any way to keep them but change the anchor text to something generic? (sorry if silly question :-)
  21. # [00:30] <@tantek> no any change is a change
  22. # [00:30] <@tantek> revisions are read-only by their very neature
  23. # [00:30] <@tantek> nature
  24. # [00:30] <@tantek> if you can provide some evidence of google actually indexing revisions, that would be helpful
  25. # [00:31] <@tantek> we can document it as an admin to-do task at least then
  26. # [00:31] <@tantek> and get to the bottom of it - because that SHOULD NOT be happening
  27. # [00:31] <@tantek> so if it is, you've helped us find a bug
  28. # [00:32] <Rob-Peters> Sure, and I guess if that was solved in due course it would solve the issue as then there wouldn't be indexed copies of the links. Glad to help, I have a list of links from Google Webmaster Tools, could I email that?
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  30. # [00:57] <@tantek> Rob-Peters, if you can provide a couple of search query URLs that show the revision URLs as results, that would suffice.
  31. # [00:57] <@tantek> here in IRC even
  32. # [00:59] <Rob-Peters> ok sure, I'll find a couple of links now and post them shortly
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  34. # [01:31] <Loqi> [[Quick Programs Of Roof Extension - What s Needed]] NM http://www.microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Quick_Programs_Of_Roof_Extension_-_What_s_Needed&rcid=74751 * FloreneF1 * (+2105) New page: In this contemporary world, most of the building is developed with roof development mutual solution. The ceiling is employed to fix the beginning for outdoor architectural development. Amo...
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  42. # [02:59] <Loqi> [[Discover an Affordable Website Style Firm]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Discover_an_Affordable_Website_Style_Firm&rcid=74759 * Ltyson91 * (+3230) It is wonderful how numerous folks out there are a jack-of-all-trades. I was speaking to somebody the other day about their business, and we entered the domain of sites and how to develop a successful site. They confidently s
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  45. # [03:08] <Garbee> ugh, just missed him.
  46. # [03:09] <Garbee> Let me look into the indexing revision links real quick, I think WPD has it setup somehow to not do that...
  47. # [03:12] <Loqi> [[5 Helpful Acne Tests]] NM http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=5_Helpful_Acne_Tests&rcid=74760 * CharlaIsa * (+3600) New page: Why Won’t My Pimples Go Away Completely?<br><br>In the event that you’re scanning this post, you are probably one of the many affected individuals who has attempted nearly everything t...
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  49. # [03:29] <Loqi> [[seattle organic seo]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=seattle_organic_seo&rcid=74761 * Techyguy10 * (+7152) New page: Expert [http://www.kayzoe.com/ Going Listed here] continue to control the Web marketing spectrum. With years of substantial sector experience, SEO companies specialize in a range of ...
  50. # [03:37] <Garbee> Ok, after some quick searching I'm not seeing any info on blocking indexing of revisions.
  51. # [03:37] <Garbee> I'll ask the MediaWiki guy for WPD next time I see him.
  52. # [05:24] <Loqi> [[Wade sounds salty Doesnt sound apologetic http://www.addioproblemidierezione.com about hard foul on Kobe and then doesnt congratulate him]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wade_sounds_salty_Doesnt_sound_apologetic_http://www.addioproblemidierezione.com_about_hard_foul_on_Kobe_and_then_doesnt_congratulate_him&rcid=74762 * KingaDarling4 * (+1519) New page: [[Image:http://www
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  73. # [07:54] <Loqi> [[Some Fundamental Actions In Buying Genuine Estate]] NM http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Some_Fundamental_Actions_In_Buying_Genuine_Estate&rcid=74776 * PilarKAY * (+2963) New page: If you are uncertain whether or not or not a house value is honest or not, do not think twice to ask a real estate agent or yet another genuine estate investor. A home that might have been...
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  141. # [19:03] <JonathanNeal> what's new in microformats, (filter: spam)
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  146. # [19:04] <@tantek> JonathanNeal, I'm behind on copy-editing the
  147. # [19:04] <@tantek> what's new in microformats
  148. # [19:05] <JonathanNeal> ha :)
  149. # [19:09] <JonathanNeal> tantek: what are your thoughts on <hgroup> <subline> and the whole custom heading elements thing?
  150. # [19:10] <@tantek> doesn't belong in core HTML
  151. # [19:10] <@tantek> any of it
  152. # [19:10] <@tantek> bunch of people wanking about with edge cases
  153. # [19:10] <@tantek> go write an HTML5 Extension Specification in the htmlwg
  154. # [19:10] <@tantek> I was *for* dropping <hgroup> even though I personally had use for it - it's not broadly relevant enough to keep in a core language for the web.
  155. # [19:11] <JonathanNeal> Would you drop any other elements?
  156. # [19:11] <@tantek> JonathanNeal - if you want to take a look and suggest or even just go ahead and make copy-edits, please do so: http://microformats.org/wiki/recently-in-microformats
  157. # [19:11] <@tantek> JonathanNeal - I'm kind of working on that concept "Would you drop any other elements"
  158. # [19:11] <@tantek> there's a lot of cruft in HTML (even just in tags) that web authors could simply ignore
  159. # [19:12] <@tantek> I might start a series of blog posts on it - maybe material for an update to my book HTML5 Now.
  160. # [19:12] <@tantek> off for a bit
  161. # [19:12] <JonathanNeal> Yea, you could be like "no more divs"
  162. # [19:12] <@tantek> hah
  163. # [19:13] <@tantek> more like ignoring all the backwards defined presentational elements
  164. # [19:13] <@tantek> or at least S and U - they add more confusion than utility
  165. # [19:13] <Loqi> IGNOR ALL THE BACKWARDS http://loqi.me/7Mo
  166. # [19:13] <JonathanNeal> "if you need a block level element, use a span, give it a class"
  167. # [19:13] <@tantek> except you can't wrap spans around blockquotes :/
  168. # [19:13] <@tantek> or paragraphs
  169. # [19:14] <JonathanNeal> Would you like me to make suggestions to that wiki here or in edits? Svbtle could be a link.
  170. # [19:14] <JonathanNeal> You can't?
  171. # [19:14] <JonathanNeal> I use spans so rarely, I didn't even know.
  172. # [19:15] <JonathanNeal> I know you can't put a <div> inside a <p>, but I thought <span> could do whatever, much like <a>
  173. # [19:17] <JonathanNeal> Sure? http://i.imgur.com/78CASVF.png
  174. # [19:20] <JonathanNeal> And in IE6 it works too http://i.imgur.com/YdoLHr0.png
  175. # [19:21] <JonathanNeal> "no more divs"
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  177. # [19:33] <Loqi> [[recently-in-microformats]] M http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=recently-in-microformats&diff=53818&oldid=53396&rcid=74822 * Jonathantneal * (+39) /* new rel me support */
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  183. # [20:34] <@tantek> Jonathanneal - does it validate?
  184. # [20:34] <@tantek> interesting that the DOM doesn't break though
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  188. # [20:43] <@tantek> Welcome CQ!
  189. # [20:44] <CQ> hi tantek
  190. # [20:44] <CQ> so I watched the video on youtube from your marakana presentation
  191. # [20:45] <CQ> and later saw a proposal (that i think you made) about removing pubdate
  192. # [20:45] <CQ> what i'm wondering is what the ideal way is to express the publication date or last mod date of web content using microformats
  193. # [20:46] <@tantek> CQ - currently the best way is to use h-entry
  194. # [20:47] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
  195. # [20:47] <@tantek> which takes care of the name of the document, the date published, the date modified
  196. # [20:47] <@tantek> summary, etc.
  197. # [20:47] <@tantek> and yes - pubdate has been gone for quite some time - it was removed at the end of 2011
  198. # [20:47] <CQ> <looking now...>
  199. # [20:49] <CQ> there it is, right in front of me!
  200. # [20:49] <CQ> I skimmed that page earlier and missed that. thank you!
  201. # [20:49] <@tantek> no problem!
  202. # [20:51] <CQ> fwiw, the link offered in this section: "profile/itemtype: http://microformats.org/profile/h-entry" results in a 404.
  203. # [20:51] <@tantek> that's why it's not a hyperlink, it's just a URL for now :)
  204. # [20:52] <CQ> that would explain it. :)
  205. # [20:59] <CQ> thank you for the high capacity for noob questions. goes a long way!
  206. # [20:59] <@tantek> absolutely - it helps us add to our FAQ :)
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