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  5. # [01:12] <Loqi> [@taylordecordoba] TODAY: Family Time: Creating in the Courtyard, California African American Museum (Exposition Park), 11am-3pm. http://www.caamuseum.org/hcalendar/index.php?eID=3899 (http://twtr.io/bjR9AAMEA8)
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  35. # [09:14] <Loqi> [@WPNewsThemes] Author hReview: Add Reviews to WordPress and Display Customer Testimonials with Rich Snippets - The set of Auth... http://wplift.com/author-hreview?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Wplift+%28WPLift%29 (http://twtr.io/bkY0ABGrGG)
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  40. # [10:11] <Loqi> [[User:iggxwobbzo]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:iggxwobbzo&diff=60292&oldid=60291&rcid=90892 * Iggxwobbzo * (+6012) /* manner */ new section
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  85. # [19:12] <JonathanNeal> Is there a microformat for music? Specifically for marking up a song or album? http://microformats.org/wiki/music-examples
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  90. # [20:06] <aaronpk> JonathanNeal: great question! I was wondering that myself. so far I've only been able to find the schema.org markup that google uses when indexing music sites
  91. # [20:09] <@tantek> JonathanNeal - it's one of the few (only?) cases where a microformat was developed mostly per the process, and yet not adopted beyond the editor (and maybe wikipedia), and ignored by Google.
  92. # [20:09] <@tantek> all other well-established/developed microformats got adopted by Google, other search engines
  93. # [20:09] <@tantek> hAudio was ignored.
  94. # [20:10] <@tantek> lots of problems with how it was designed, developed, and pushed through mostly by a single individual (who wrote many many very long emails and lost everyone else).
  95. # [20:10] <@tantek> but if you're curious and want to evaluate for yourself whether it works for your content: http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio
  96. # [20:11] <@tantek> we really should redesign it and simplify it with microformats2
  97. # [20:11] <@tantek> as well as look at what use-cases Google came up with for songs etc.
  98. # [20:14] <@tantek> JonathanNeal? I am actually interested in your honest and frank opinion of hAudio - http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio
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  100. # [20:23] <Loqi> [@dan_shure] Add Reviews to WordPress and Display Customer Testimonials with Rich Snippets http://wplift.com/author-hreview via @wplift (http://twtr.io/bmY4wALzwp)
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  109. # [23:00] <JonathanNeal> tantek: reading now.
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  111. # [23:02] <JonathanNeal> It's already better than a bright coloured fish.
  112. # [23:12] <JonathanNeal> And it's much worse than h-card.
  113. # [23:12] <JonathanNeal> This needs a 2.0.
  114. # [23:18] <JonathanNeal> media metadata needs to have two things, description of the work and description of the stream.
  115. # [23:20] <@tantek> interesting
  116. # [23:30] <JonathanNeal> With an image, you can use width and height to describe the stream, but alt to describe the work. And you get to control if you want to misrepresent that data.
  117. # [23:34] <JonathanNeal> With media, the stream data is the bit rate (192kbps), the length (3:15) the channels (2 for Stereo, 6 for Surround), etc. and the work data is title (Mighty Microformats), artist (Tantek Çelik), album (Jon's Friends Sing About Tech), and compilation (true).
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  120. # [23:42] <JonathanNeal> So maybe h-media and h-stream, and h-media can contain h-media and h-stream.
  121. # [23:43] <JonathanNeal> h-media can describe an artist, an album, a song, etc. (album > track, track, track > chapter, chapter, band > [album > track track] [album > track], etc.)
  122. # [23:43] <JonathanNeal> Does this mesh with you so far?
  123. # [23:45] <JonathanNeal> This way you could describe an entire album or collection (media), whether it's represented by one file (stream) or many file (streams). I think that would work best.
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