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  1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 29 00:00:00 2013
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  27. # [09:44] <cweiske> Hi. Do you have hreview examples for ISBN and EANs instead of normal URLs?
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  29. # [10:07] <cweiske> you really should link to h-hreview from hReview
  30. # [10:08] <cweiske> is there a profile URL for h-review?
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  35. # [12:32] <Loqi> [@LilaWonderbra] Reviews: Author HReview Plugin: Google’s current algorithm tends to favor sites with reviews, especially sites... http://graywolfseo.com/reviews/author-hreview-plugin/ (http://twtr.io/eCczutmoEw)
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  49. # [15:47] * barnabywalters pushes php-mf2 v0.2.1, a bugfix for some classic microformats parsing issues
  50. # [15:50] <@tantek> nice
  51. # [16:43] <Loqi> [[validators]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=validators&diff=64041&oldid=63871&rcid=100279 * Barnabywalters * (+409) /* specific microformats validators */ added indiewebify.me validators for h-card and h-entry
  52. # [16:43] <@tantek> woot!
  53. # [16:43] <Loqi> woot
  54. # [16:43] <@tantek> barnabywalters - you could also add them to the format pages themselves
  55. # [16:43] <@tantek> e.g. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Validating
  56. # [16:43] <barnabywalters> doing
  57. # [16:43] <@tantek> nice
  58. # [16:44] <barnabywalters> ah, they’re actually locked
  59. # [16:44] <barnabywalters> as opposed to emotionally locked ;)
  60. # [16:44] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/protect]] modify * Tantek * changed protection level for "[[h-entry]]": unprotect to broaden contributions/edits from community [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]
  61. # [16:45] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/protect]] modify * Tantek * changed protection level for "[[h-card]]": unprotect to broaden contributions/edits from community [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]
  62. # [16:45] <barnabywalters> YAY
  63. # [16:46] <barnabywalters> uh, weird — now I can edit the page but not that section
  64. # [16:46] <barnabywalters> oh it’s in a template — {{h-spec-section-validating}}
  65. # [16:47] <barnabywalters> which is locked
  66. # [16:47] <@tantek> barnabywalters - but put the format-specific stuff *outside* the template
  67. # [16:50] <Loqi> [[h-entry]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-entry&diff=64044&oldid=64042&rcid=100282 * Barnabywalters * (+202) added indiewebify.me validator
  68. # [16:52] <Loqi> [[h-card]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-card&diff=64045&oldid=64043&rcid=100283 * Barnabywalters * (+178) added indiewebify.me validator
  69. # [16:53] <Loqi> [[Template:h-spec-section-validating]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:h-spec-section-validating&diff=64046&oldid=63929&rcid=100284 * Tantek * (+7) /* Validating */ make it generic without header
  70. # [16:55] <Loqi> [[h-entry]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-entry&diff=64047&oldid=64044&rcid=100285 * Tantek * (+16) explicit validating section, specific validator first, then generic template
  71. # [16:58] <Loqi> [[h-adr]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-adr&diff=64048&oldid=64008&rcid=100286 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  72. # [16:58] <Loqi> [[h-card]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-card&diff=64049&oldid=64045&rcid=100287 * Tantek * (+16) explicit validating section, specific validator first, then generic template
  73. # [16:58] <Loqi> [[h-event]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-event&diff=64050&oldid=64011&rcid=100288 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  74. # [16:58] <Loqi> [[h-geo]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-geo&diff=64051&oldid=64012&rcid=100289 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  75. # [16:59] <Loqi> [[h-item]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-item&diff=64052&oldid=58633&rcid=100290 * Tantek * (+14) explicit validating section
  76. # [16:59] <Loqi> [[h-product]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-product&diff=64053&oldid=64013&rcid=100291 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  77. # [16:59] <Loqi> [[h-recipe]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-recipe&diff=64054&oldid=64014&rcid=100292 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  78. # [16:59] <Loqi> [[h-resume]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-resume&diff=64055&oldid=60780&rcid=100293 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  79. # [16:59] <Loqi> [[h-review]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-review&diff=64056&oldid=58637&rcid=100294 * Tantek * (+15) explicit validating section
  80. # [17:00] <@tantek> ok barnabywalters - all the other specs are now explicitly ready for vocabulary-specific validation/linting :)
  81. # [17:00] <barnabywalters> tantek: great!
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  83. # [17:54] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-issues&diff=64057&oldid=64022&rcid=100295 * Barnabywalters * (+237) /* issues */ stubbed form input parsing rules
  84. # [17:55] <barnabywalters> tantek: ^^^
  85. # [17:55] <barnabywalters> was just discussing this with brennan — not sure if it’s widely enough used to be useful
  86. # [17:55] <barnabywalters> but interesting nonetheless
  87. # [17:59] <@tantek> barnabywalters - there's been exploration of that in the past in microformats
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  89. # [18:00] <barnabywalters> briansuda mentioned that he implemented it in h2vx
  90. # [18:05] <@tantek> barnabywalters - last time we talked about this, this is what I wrote up: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-parsing-brainstorming#input_element_handling
  91. # [18:06] <@tantek> that's for input/text area on their own like that
  92. # [18:06] <@tantek> and then there's the semantic of root class names on <form> elements, which has some interesting potential: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-input
  93. # [18:06] <barnabywalters> aaronpk did some brainstorming on this recently too
  94. # [18:07] <barnabywalters> http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub
  95. # [18:08] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-issues&diff=64058&oldid=64057&rcid=100296 * Tantek * (+217) /* How to interpret mf2 classnames on form inputs */ note proposed resolution and related form microformats thinking
  96. # [18:08] <@tantek> yeah I took a brief look at micropub
  97. # [18:08] <@tantek> I'm not sure about approaching from the protocol side first
  98. # [18:09] <@tantek> I'd rather approach it from the form markup side first to see if that makes sense
  99. # [18:09] <@tantek> if it does, we can figure out a protocol accordingly
  100. # [18:10] <barnabywalters> sounds like shaners is also doing similar things
  101. # [18:10] <barnabywalters> https://twitter.com/veganstraightedge/status/394967460987682817
  102. # [18:10] <Loqi> https://twitter.com/veganstraightedge :: HTML idea:
  103. # [18:10] <Loqi> Use HTML5 forms (type, required, pattern) to describe model objects and their validations. We already have a prototype working.
  104. # [18:12] <@tantek> except that's a programmer tool, not a user publishing use-case
  105. # [18:12] <@tantek> I mean, still interesting
  106. # [18:12] <@tantek> but not as interesting as the micropub use-case
  107. # [18:14] <@tantek> ok braindumped my thoughts for now, can be expanded later: http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub#Alternative_form_markup_first
  108. # [18:23] <aaronpk> tantek: good thinking. actually most of my thoughts around micropub were based on it being in an HTML form anyway
  109. # [18:24] <aaronpk> probably a good idae to literally approach it as a form first
  110. # [18:24] <@tantek> aaronpk - not trying to question the good work you've done on micropub
  111. # [18:25] <@tantek> I just wanted to make sure that we were also checking the form-first approach to make sure it meshed well
  112. # [18:25] <aaronpk> yeah
  113. # [18:25] <aaronpk> actually, forgot I had written this note:
  114. # [18:25] <aaronpk> "At a most basic level, you should be able to write an HTML form and set the form action to your own endpoint and use it to post to your site."
  115. # [18:25] <@tantek> I think we got accidentally lucky with webmention being so form-friendly
  116. # [18:25] <@tantek> so now we should design that way explicitly
  117. # [18:25] <@tantek> is my thinking
  118. # [18:26] <@tantek> none of sandeep's original work on webmention mentioned forms or UI for this at all
  119. # [18:26] <@tantek> he just happened to intuitively choose what worked out well
  120. # [18:31] <Loqi> [@PancakeBreasts] Fucking pricks. If you can win the match wit hcards on the board, do it, dont sit there and draw shit (http://twtr.io/eDAHGT0X4Y)
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  128. # [20:43] <KevinMarks> this sounds promising for noterlive, if it is to post to your own site as well as twitter
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  143. # [22:53] <Loqi> [@SMIDIT] Heeft u een #wordpress website en wilt u meer bezoekers vanuit de SERPS? http://www.smid-it.nl/author-hreview-zoekverkeer-verbeteren-door-opvallende-opmaak-in-de-serps/ (http://twtr.io/eDZqNqygqw)
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