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  47. # [04:50] <JonathanNeal> I’m excited! Might seem like overkill, but I think it’s future proof. At my new job we’re designing a site that controls messages on the digital displays throughout the campus, and I’m using microformats 2 to define all of the layouts.
  48. # [04:52] <@tantek> whoa that's awesome JonathanNeal!
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  54. # [06:35] <JonathanNeal> I don’t see microformats being used with this - http://microformats.org/wiki/s5-tools - what am I missing?
  55. # [06:37] <JonathanNeal> Maybe I don’t understand xoxo when I’m used to h- constructs.
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  89. # [11:40] <Loqi> [[existing-rel-values]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=64232&oldid=64189&rcid=100486 * Kaefer3000 * (+18) Changed link for RDF in HTML to the correct version of the document
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  136. # [17:14] <JonathanNeal> Is h-entry good for slides?
  137. # [17:18] <barnabywalters> JonathanNeal: depends how you want to use it
  138. # [17:18] <barnabywalters> when thinking “should I use this vocabulary for this thing”, think about what services consume the vocal, and how you want your content to show up in them
  139. # [17:19] <barnabywalters> e.g. lots of indieweb software uses h-entry for reply contexts and comments, or in a feed reader
  140. # [17:19] <barnabywalters> so think “if someone replies to this presentation, or sees it in their feed, what should it look like?”
  141. # [17:19] <barnabywalters> and go from there
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  143. # [17:23] <JonathanNeal> barnabywalters: wonderful, so in a situation like that, with entries in a feed or slides in a presentation, how would one markup the navigation between them?
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  145. # [17:24] <JonathanNeal> Is there something like h-navigation, h-directory, h-menu? None of those actually exist, though there is a brainstorm for h-breadcrumb.
  146. # [17:24] <barnabywalters> well, entries in a feed and slides in a presentation are very different UIs
  147. # [17:25] <barnabywalters> for navigation between sequential content use rel=next and rel=prev[ious]
  148. # [17:25] <barnabywalters> there’s also rel=parent
  149. # [17:25] <barnabywalters> for “up”, e.g. to get to “notes” from a particular note
  150. # [17:26] <JonathanNeal> barnabywalters: prev/next would be useful if I were referring to siblings in relationship to an entry. This is agnostic, like a website navigation. The only rel might be a self.
  151. # [17:27] <JonathanNeal> It’s global navigation for all the slides, not back/next.
  152. # [17:27] <barnabywalters> ah, okay — again, consider how the extra semantics are going to be interpreted and presented by consuming software, and let that inform your decisions
  153. # [17:27] <barnabywalters> so what are you going to build which makes programatic use of this machine-readable global navigation?
  154. # [17:31] <barnabywalters> probably the reason that h-breadcrumb hasn’t really gone anywhere is that no-one knew what to *do* with it once it was there
  155. # [17:32] <barnabywalters> there’s no compelling, high-value use case
  156. # [17:32] <barnabywalters> (so far at least)
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  161. # [18:09] <JonathanNeal> Okay, more thinking and building are needed. I appreciate the input.
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The end :)