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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jul 21 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  10. # [01:38] <@tantek> I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that those that are designing for something in JSON (e.g. APIs) being the source of "truth" are just as doomed as those that designed for something in XML (e.g. older APIs) being the source of "truth". per: https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/490958867803537408
  11. # [01:38] <Loqi> [@benwerd] A+ API talk at #reclaimyourdomain. Btw, with microformats, you don't necessarily need JSON. Here's my site, parsed: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwerd.io (http://twtr.io/oi2YQoYfPU)
  12. # [01:38] <@tantek> cc: mko ^^^ (re: Portable Contacts, etc. etc.)
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  16. # [02:52] <mko> tantek: Designing for something in JSON as the source of truth is no different than designing for something in HTML except that it allows for more useful repurposing without requiring as much of a translation layer or removal of presentational elements. Separation of concerns and all that. Designing for the Portable Contacts schema is silly. We agree on that. I'm not sure why you think I like Portable Contacts. I just mentioned that
  17. # [02:52] <mko> Passport uses the Portable Contacts schema as a standard for its unified profile system.
  18. # [02:57] <@tantek> mko - those same excuses were made for XML, and will be made for whatever replaces JSON in 5-10 years. Meanwhile, HTML+microformats will endure, on the web, in archive.org etc. All programmer formats are ephemeral, and thus a poor source of truth.
  19. # [02:59] <@tantek> also, before XML, the same excuses were made for databases/SQL
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  37. # [09:23] <@tantek> !spammer infoMGWV
  38. # [09:23] <Loqi> Got it! There are now 214 spammers blacklisted
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  54. # [13:02] <Loqi> [@wpulsarblog] Author hReview Plugin Review - #WordPress #wp http://tinyurl.com/m6o2t9k (http://twtr.io/ojLEiurngu)
  55. # [13:04] <Loqi> [@wp_digest] RT @wpulsarblog: Author hReview Plugin Review - #WordPress #wp http://tinyurl.com/m6o2t9k (http://twtr.io/ojLPWF7Lxb)
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  57. # [13:51] <Loqi> [@ntxsol] @_BrandonTurpin fo you have any suggestions about working through hcard error? I've worked through authorship and publisher errors. (http://twtr.io/ojQcUd3Czj)
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  117. # [22:49] <aaronpk> what's the current recommendation in microformats2 for publishing numbers with units?
  118. # [22:49] <aaronpk> like 2.4 miles
  119. # [22:50] <@tantek> there is no "current" recommendation
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  121. # [22:50] <@tantek> there was work on an hMeasure microformat that in some ways went too far
  122. # [22:50] <@tantek> check that out and h-recipe too
  123. # [22:50] <aaronpk> looking at h-recipe
  124. # [22:50] <aaronpk> http://microformats.org/wiki/h-recipe
  125. # [22:50] <@tantek> heh
  126. # [22:50] <@tantek> :)
  127. # [22:50] <aaronpk> durationt makes sense as 1H for one hour
  128. # [22:52] <aaronpk> you're saying this is what went too far? http://microformats.org/wiki/measure
  129. # [22:53] <aaronpk> i'll just stick to my current NNuu for now. (150 lbs, 2.1 miles, 13 mph, etc)
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  132. # [23:11] <@tantek> yes /measure went too far
  133. # [23:12] <@tantek> this would be a cool thing to solve for science
  134. # [23:12] <aaronpk> for science!
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