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  1. # Session Start: Sat Aug 16 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  11. # [00:42] <Erkan_Yilmaz> yay, I got it now working via templates
  12. # [00:42] <Erkan_Yilmaz> no plugin needed to be installed
  13. # [00:42] <Erkan_Yilmaz> let's see if I can turn them also into mf2
  14. # [00:59] <Erkan_Yilmaz> thx again KartikPrabhu aaronpk
  15. # [00:59] <KartikPrabhu> sure thing
  16. # [01:01] <Erkan_Yilmaz> but it's not really full microformats, now I just have: url fn (which is enough for me now)
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  19. # [01:07] <KartikPrabhu> Erkan_Yilmaz: the good thing about microformats is that you can add them bit by bit and it still works
  20. # [01:07] <Erkan_Yilmaz> :-)
  21. # [01:07] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I saw via pin13 that mediawiki seems to enable some other tag attributes in the JSON output by default also
  22. # [01:08] <KartikPrabhu> yeah it probably adds some rel stuff autmatically
  23. # [01:09] <Erkan_Yilmaz> yes, you're right. it's in the "rels"
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  25. # [01:11] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I actually came from the webmention, pingback notifications to mf
  26. # [01:11] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I first got in contact with mf via MMN-o when he added it to GNU social (aka statusnet)
  27. # [01:27] <Erkan_Yilmaz> so, the mf2 format is definitely smaller than mf
  28. # [01:28] <Erkan_Yilmaz> but I wonder how I do now the <a> tag ;-)
  29. # [01:28] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I see now: I'll do http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2#backward_compatible
  30. # [01:32] <KevinMarks_> wait, we're a religion now? http://instagram.com/p/rQUhaRIOrQ/
  31. # [01:33] <KevinMarks_> is there another meaning? http://pestagram.com/tag/microformats
  32. # [01:35] <Erkan_Yilmaz> so, changing the template to mf2 also seems to work: in this backward compatible style
  33. # [01:36] <KartikPrabhu> lol what! KevinMarks_ !
  34. # [01:37] <Erkan_Yilmaz> hm, not exactly, MW leaves out the u-url (it should be "u-url url")
  35. # [01:37] <Erkan_Yilmaz> but pin13 and php-mf2 show it correct
  36. # [01:38] <KartikPrabhu> they show it correctly because of the backwards compatible parsing. you don't need to put both the old syntax and new
  37. # [01:40] <Erkan_Yilmaz> ok, I was thinking of apps not yet supporting mf2
  38. # [01:40] <KartikPrabhu> what kind of apps are you thinking of that use microformats?
  39. # [01:41] <Erkan_Yilmaz> not updated ones :-)
  40. # [01:42] <KartikPrabhu> or even older syntax?
  41. # [01:42] <Erkan_Yilmaz> well, I was just thinking to be on the safe side, not that I know any parsers yet besides pin13 and php-mf2
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  44. # [01:43] <KartikPrabhu> Erkan_Yilmaz: No i mean, I don't think "apps" use microformat data at all yet
  45. # [01:43] <Erkan_Yilmaz> well, then they better should now that I enabled it
  46. # [01:44] <KartikPrabhu> Erkan_Yilmaz: which apps?
  47. # [01:45] <Erkan_Yilmaz> well, serach engines could use it
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  49. # [01:46] <KartikPrabhu> yeah I guess search eingines are still parsing older syntax. I don't know if they do anything terribly useful with it other than some snippets
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  64. # [02:10] <Erkan_Yilmaz> smiling at use case: h-recipe
  65. # [02:29] <Erkan_Yilmaz> cool, hatom mf also done
  66. # [02:29] <Erkan_Yilmaz> let's see how hatom mf2 differs
  67. # [02:29] <Erkan_Yilmaz> seems no difference
  68. # [02:38] <@tantek> Erkan_Yilmaz: really? there are quite a few differences between hAtom and h-entry
  69. # [02:38] <@tantek> see: microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
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  71. # [02:39] <Erkan_Yilmaz> well, I cheated in the implementation :-(
  72. # [02:39] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I just added the span elements
  73. # [02:39] <Erkan_Yilmaz> and pin13 shows the correct JSOn output
  74. # [02:39] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I am just using it now as "marking" additionally the blog post
  75. # [02:44] <@tantek> Erkan_Yilmaz: interesting! you might be taking advantage of its backward compat support
  76. # [02:45] <Erkan_Yilmaz> yes,
  77. # [02:45] <Erkan_Yilmaz> also: when I read the hAtom I wondered if the "entry-content" would display all the length of my blog posting, or better: if my template would display it
  78. # [02:46] <Erkan_Yilmaz> so what I do now is:
  79. # [02:46] <Erkan_Yilmaz> I made at the end of the blog posting a section "notes" and add there the template
  80. # [02:46] <Erkan_Yilmaz> it's still bad layout, also misses a permalink I'd like to have
  81. # [02:46] <Erkan_Yilmaz> but: it works
  82. # [02:47] <@tantek> Erkan_Yilmaz: for better help with blog post markup - definitely check out / hangout in #indiewebcamp!
  83. # [02:47] <@tantek> more active folks there :)
  84. # [02:47] <Erkan_Yilmaz> ok :-)
  85. # [02:48] <@tantek> and welcome!
  86. # [02:48] <@tantek> :)
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  88. # [03:01] <Erkan_Yilmaz> though I guess I need to get a bot started, adding to all my blog posts the hAtom template will be time consuming
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