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  1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 07 00:00:01 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #microformats
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  5. # [00:05] <@tantek> barnabywalters: fyi: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20141006#l-843
  6. # [00:05] <@tantek> making sure we capture a permlink for the logs
  7. # [00:08] <Loqi> [[h-card]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=h-card&diff=64581&oldid=64566&rcid=100945 * Barnabywalters * (+70) /* Properties */ clarified u-uid, u-logo as set apart from u-photo
  8. # [00:09] <@tantek> thanks barnabywalters
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  10. # [00:18] <Loqi> [[representative-hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=representative-hcard-parsing&diff=64582&oldid=64580&rcid=100946 * Tantek * (+376) /* Issues */ add proposed resolutions
  11. # [00:19] <barnabywalters> tantek: don’t have the right focus for adding shrewdness features right now so going to write up improved, mf2-compliant representative h-card parsing algo
  12. # [00:19] <Loqi> [[representative-hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=representative-hcard-parsing&diff=64583&oldid=64582&rcid=100947 * Tantek * (+85) /* Issues */ add IRC log citation of discussion re: comparing URLs
  13. # [00:19] <barnabywalters> I assume the back compat is handled by the h-card backcompat parsing and there doesn’t need to be a separate backcompat codepath in the algo itself?
  14. # [00:20] <@tantek> barnabywalters: feel free to write a clean version at /representative-h-card-parsing
  15. # [00:20] <barnabywalters> okay, will do that
  16. # [00:20] <@tantek> correct re: backcompat
  17. # [00:30] <@tantek> barnabywalters: and then you can replace the "NEEDS UPDATE for microformats2 h-card. " with a link to the new spec
  18. # [00:30] <barnabywalters> yup
  19. # [00:30] <@tantek> similar to how http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard says "See latest version: h-card" at the top in a big yellow box
  20. # [00:30] <@tantek> cool
  21. # [00:30] <@tantek> thanks!
  22. # [00:41] <Loqi> [[representative-hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=representative-hcard-parsing&diff=64585&oldid=64583&rcid=100949 * Barnabywalters * (-16) Linked to updated version
  23. # [00:51] <KevinMarks__> empirical URL normalisation can be useful too
  24. # [00:59] <barnabywalters> e.g. should URL comparison involve redirect resolution?
  25. # [01:00] <barnabywalters> if http://waterpigs.co.uk redirects to https://, my site has an h-card with url uid of https://, but someone types in the http:// to a service which does representative h-card parsing, should it correctly follow the redirect to the https:// site?
  26. # [01:01] <@tantek> barnabywalters: anything that *loads* the URL should use the destination of the redirect
  27. # [01:01] <@tantek> not what someone typed in
  28. # [01:01] <barnabywalters> that’s worth noting in the URL Matching section of the algo
  29. # [01:02] <@tantek> why? nothing in there loads a page
  30. # [01:02] <@tantek> assumes you already have the page loaded
  31. # [01:02] <@tantek> that's outside UI stuff
  32. # [01:02] <@tantek> maybe as an FAQ?
  33. # [01:02] <barnabywalters> tantek: then it should be noted that the resolved URL of the page should be used rather than the original fetched URL
  34. # [01:03] <@tantek> rather than the requested URL
  35. # [01:14] <Loqi> [[representative-h-card-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=representative-h-card-parsing&diff=64586&oldid=64584&rcid=100950 * Barnabywalters * (+375) added mf-cleaner implementation
  36. # [01:15] <barnabywalters> barnabywalters/mf-cleaner now implements the new representative h-card algorithm ^^^
  37. # [01:18] <@tantek> barnabywalters: with backcompat - does it work for hCards as well?
  38. # [01:18] <barnabywalters> tantek: it just works on the output of my Mf2 parser, so yes
  39. # [01:18] <@tantek> as in - is it also an implementation of http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard-parsing ?
  40. # [01:19] <@tantek> might as well add it to the top of http://microformats.org/wiki/representative-hcard-parsing#open_source_implementations also :)
  41. # [01:19] <barnabywalters> (or indeed any other PHP microformats2 parser)
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  84. # [09:24] <Loqi> [@GarretFick] New post: "Personal hCard Updated (1.1.3)" http://ficksworkshop.com/blog/14-coding/161-personal-hcard-updated-1-1-3 (http://twtr.io/rYJ4qxpTFC)
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  89. # [09:55] <KartikPrabhu> hello csarven
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  130. # [16:53] <kylewm> hi all, implied properties question. I'm trying to parse something like <article class="h-entry">
  131. # [16:53] <kylewm> <a class="u-like-of" href="http://orig.domain/baz">liked this</a>
  132. # [16:53] <kylewm> </article>
  133. # [16:53] <kylewm> and the implied url rules mean that I get the url property "http://orig.domain/baz"
  134. # [16:53] <kylewm> is that right?
  135. # [16:55] <barnabywalters> kylewm: seeing as it has an explicit mf2 classname, probably not
  136. # [16:56] <barnabywalters> although I don’t think the parsing rules currently cover that case, but they should. Can you add this as an issue to http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues?
  137. # [16:56] <kylewm> barnabywalters: agreed and will do
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  141. # [17:10] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-issues&diff=64587&oldid=64417&rcid=100951 * Kylewm * (+524) /* issues */ implicit properties when an explicit property is given
  142. # [17:11] <alanpearce> Hmm, I didn't know about that page. I'll make sure to keep an eye on it as I'm developing :)
  143. # [17:11] <@tantek> kylewm: that's a good question.
  144. # [17:12] <barnabywalters`> thanks kylewm!
  145. # [17:13] <kylewm> thank you!
  146. # [17:13] <@tantek> another way of phrasing it would be - how do you disable/turn-off any of the implied properties?
  147. # [17:15] <barnabywalters`> tantek: “by giving them explicit property classnames” is a good start, and covers this case
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