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  97. # [21:33] <Mark87> is there anything similar to microdata's itemref in microformats? Where I can essentially say "I've already marked up this data somewhere else on the page, but they really belong here under this microformat object, so here is their space-separated id's, include them in the parser output"?
  98. # [21:33] <Loqi> Mark87: tantek left you a message on 10/16 at 1:20pm: take a look at http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-prefixes re: collisions etc.
  99. # [21:34] <@tantek> Mark87 - yes, in classic microformats we had the include pattern. in microformats2 we tentatively decided to re-use "itemref" as-is.
  100. # [21:34] <@tantek> Though strangely, there haven't been many use-cases for it.
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  102. # [21:35] <Mark87> @tantek thanks. One use case is including a p-author h-card in each h-entry, except that the mf2 parsing algo seems to take that into account as a separate piece of logic
  103. # [21:36] <@tantek> the microformats2 parsing algorithm is pretty clear there - no separate piece of logic AFAIK
  104. # [21:36] <@tantek> are you talking about indiewebcamp.com/authorship perhaps?
  105. # [21:37] <Mark87> yes, that's what I meant
  106. # [21:37] <Mark87> well then people really ought to make use of itemref for authorship.
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  108. # [21:51] <@tantek> Mark87 - why? people are already using rel=author
  109. # [21:51] <@tantek> so it makes sense to re-use that first
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  111. # [21:55] <Mark87> Well that's what people are using so it does make sense to use that. Its also true that having more options available for writers to use will increase the proliferation of microformats because its easier to write. Personally though I would like it to be easier to read :)
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  113. # [22:06] <@tantek> Mark87 - those two are diametrically opposed.
  114. # [22:06] <Mark87> indeed
  115. # [22:07] <@tantek> thus it makes sense to re-use reasonable standards that people are using
  116. # [22:07] <@tantek> especially when they're already minimal/simple, like rel=author
  117. # [22:07] <@tantek> it's not clear itemref would make anything easier for anybody
  118. # [22:07] <@tantek> in fact, I believe quite the opposite - it would complicate things for most
  119. # [22:08] <@tantek> should we have a documented need for generic itemref-like functionality in microformats, the current approach is to re-use itemref at that time: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-brainstorming#adopt_itemref
  120. # [22:11] <Mark87> @tantek++
  121. # [22:23] <Loqi> [[events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0&diff=64612&oldid=43743&rcid=100976 * Tantek * (+137) /* Photographs */ replace photo with one on Flickr
  122. # [22:25] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=64613&oldid=64600&rcid=100977 * Tantek * (+98) /* SEE ALSO */ the session that proposed microformats 2.0
  123. # [22:25] <Loqi> [[microformats2]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2&diff=64614&oldid=64613&rcid=100978 * Tantek * (+2) /* SEE ALSO */ []
  124. # [22:26] <Loqi> [[events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0&diff=64615&oldid=64612&rcid=100979 * Tantek * (+19) /* See Also */ microformats2
  125. # [22:31] <Loqi> [[events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0&diff=64616&oldid=64615&rcid=100980 * Tantek * (+415) /* Articles and Blog Posts */ couple of tweets
  126. # [22:35] <Loqi> [[events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0&diff=64617&oldid=64616&rcid=100981 * Tantek * (+232) /* Photographs */ two more
  127. # [22:40] <Loqi> [[events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2010-05-02-microformats-2-0&diff=64618&oldid=64617&rcid=100982 * Tantek * (+372) /* Articles and Blog Posts */ couple more tweets
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