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  44. # [07:45] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=64839&oldid=64766&rcid=101215 * Tantek * (-22) /* parsing an e- property */ updated link to serialising-html-fragments in HTML spec, ht: willnorris
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  104. # [19:57] <GWG> There
  105. # [19:58] <GWG> Is there a class microformat for relme?
  106. # [20:00] <Loqi> [@catab93] hCard Creator http://hcardcreator.com/articles/what-hcard-vcard-microformats (http://twtr.io/x3T0v17PNf)
  107. # [20:01] <GWG> The problem is scope. Rel values, I was advised over the weekend, are page level. Which explains u-syndication vs rel-syndication. So, is there a u-me?
  108. # [20:01] <@tantek> GWG, your analysis is correct
  109. # [20:01] <Loqi> tantek: elf-pavlik left you a message on 3/5 at 3:17pm: it looks like u-* doesn't imply URL http://microformats.org/wiki/uid-brainstorming#SHOULD_rather_than_MUST
  110. # [20:01] <@tantek> there is no u-me because there hasn't been a use-case for it
  111. # [20:02] <@tantek> for "other profiles" URLs, we just use u-url in an h-card, e.g. see my home page tantek.com
  112. # [20:02] <GWG> tantek: I have one.
  113. # [20:02] <elf-pavlik> tantek, thx!
  114. # [20:02] <GWG> The partial hcard issue
  115. # [20:02] <elf-pavlik> please also check your messages on #social (W3C)
  116. # [20:02] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: u- does imply URL, as *should* does imply
  117. # [20:02] <@tantek> it implies, but does not *require*, that's the key
  118. # [20:02] <GWG> Where you want to link to more me data.
  119. # [20:02] <@tantek> and in practice, yes, all u- properties are used as URLs
  120. # [20:03] <@tantek> GWG, you could make your canonical h-card on that page instead
  121. # [20:03] <@tantek> e.g. some do this with /about pages
  122. # [20:04] <GWG> Agreed, but many don't.
  123. # [20:04] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: will do - I typically only check #social on weekdays. Weekends I focus on implementing, whereas typical chatter on #social is not about implementing but more theoretical.
  124. # [20:04] <@tantek> or meta for that matter
  125. # [20:05] <GWG> Also, a u-me might be used for multi author scenarios, which is a problem of mine.
  126. # [20:05] <elf-pavlik> tantek, roger! but today many(most) people following gregorian calendar consider a weekday :)
  127. # [20:06] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: yes, my reference to "weekday" is Gregorian weeks implied
  128. # [20:06] <elf-pavlik> inference++ ;)
  129. # [20:06] <Loqi> inference has 1 karma
  130. # [20:07] <@tantek> it will take a while longer to first transition folks to ordinal days, which I think is necessary before we can transition to new weeks
  131. # [20:07] <@tantek> GWG - I disagree about u-me for multi-author scenarios - could you document multi-author use-case more?
  132. # [20:08] <@tantek> GWG, perhaps start with writing something up here? http://microformats.org/wiki/multi-author
  133. # [20:09] <elf-pavlik> tantek, maybe worth using RFC2119 key words in http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#microformats2_design ?
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  135. # [20:12] <GWG> tantek: And for expanded hcard links? Do you disagree as well?
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  137. # [20:15] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: good suggestion, can you add a new issue to http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-issues to "Normatively reference RFC2119 in microformats2 specs" ?
  138. # [20:16] <@tantek> GWG, what is an expanded hCard? Can you rephrase that as a *user* feature, without mentioning specific formats / plumbing?
  139. # [20:17] <GWG> More fields
  140. # [20:17] <@tantek> GWG, can you actually *name* the overall user feature you are talking about?
  141. # [20:17] <@tantek> without mentioning specific formats / plumbing?
  142. # [20:19] <Loqi> [[microformats2-issues]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-issues&diff=64840&oldid=64288&rcid=101216 * Elf Pavlik * (+127) Normatively reference RFC2119 in microformats2 specs
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  163. # [22:44] <tommorris> tantek: I’m working on a personal side project (other than tommorris.org). and there’s microformats2 all over the place: h-card, h-calendar. maybe some h-atom soon too.
  164. # [22:44] <@tantek> neat! and by h-atom I assume you mean h-feed :)
  165. # [22:44] <tommorris> h-entry. and possibly h-review.
  166. # [22:44] <@tantek> similarly, by h-calendar you mean a bunch of h-event ? or did you find a use-case for a calendar level clustering of h-event ?
  167. # [22:44] <tommorris> No, nothing yet.
  168. # [22:45] <@tantek> that sounds like a great real world case study
  169. # [22:45] <@tantek> ok cool
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  175. # [23:46] <GWG> tantek: Will elaborate shortly.
  176. # [23:47] <@tantek> cue the trumpets! :)
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