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  1. # Session Start: Sat Apr 25 00:00:00 2015
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  16. # [03:04] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64912&oldid=64909&rcid=101288 * Kevin Marks * (+111) /* rel-tag */ add "urls" example
  17. # [03:06] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64913&oldid=64912&rcid=101289 * Kevin Marks * (+200) /* xfn */ wiht urls
  18. # [03:08] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64914&oldid=64913&rcid=101290 * Kevin Marks * (+199) /* rel-enclosure */ add urls example
  19. # [03:08] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64915&oldid=64914&rcid=101291 * Kevin Marks * (-180) /* rel-tag */ just the urls mode
  20. # [03:12] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64916&oldid=64915&rcid=101292 * Kevin Marks * (+570) /* xfn */ multiple values
  21. # [03:16] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64917&oldid=64916&rcid=101293 * Kevin Marks * (+88) /* more information for rel-based formats */ link to my fork of mf2py
  22. # [03:20] <@tantek> KevinMarks - the top level "urls" key is misleading, because they're actually <link> / <a> / <area> elements that you're representing a collection of
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  35. # [03:30] <KevinMarks_> what name would you suggest?
  36. # [03:32] <@tantek> I was going to suggest "links" but that's no better because they could be <a href>s instead of just <link href>s
  37. # [03:32] <@tantek> "urls" at the top level makes it sound like *all* the URLs in the document are listed there
  38. # [03:32] <@tantek> which is not true
  39. # [03:33] <@tantek> hence it's a misleading key
  40. # [03:38] <KevinMarks_> hm
  41. # [03:38] <KevinMarks_> I could make it get all urls
  42. # [03:41] <@tantek> no that's the wrong methodology - the "could do" methodology, rather than the - "what's the use case?" and minimal design / implementation requirement methodology
  43. # [03:42] <KevinMarks_> rel_urls ?
  44. # [03:42] <KevinMarks_> related_urls ?
  45. # [03:42] <@tantek> which is why I used "rels" to being with
  46. # [03:42] <@tantek> s/being/begin
  47. # [03:42] <Loqi> tantek meant to say: which is why I used "rels" to begin with
  48. # [03:45] <@tantek> as the top level key
  49. # [03:46] <KevinMarks_> so are you saying urls should be under rels?
  50. # [03:47] <KevinMarks_> I tried adding more values to each rel entry, but that was a breaking change, and made it complex
  51. # [03:50] <@tantek> yeah. well, "rel-urls" would be better than "urls" at least.
  52. # [03:52] <KevinMarks_> kylewm, tommorris, aaronpk - are you interested in these changes? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#more_information_for_rel-based_formats
  53. # [03:53] <KevinMarks_> it does get the css etc links as well
  54. # [03:54] <@tantek> well so does the existing microformats2 parsing spec
  55. # [03:54] <KevinMarks_> where's the stuff about alternates?
  56. # [03:54] <@tantek> http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parse_a_hyperlink_element_for_rel_microformats
  57. # [03:55] <KevinMarks_> currently I'm looking for "media","hreflang","type","title" attrs
  58. # [03:56] <KevinMarks_> shouls I check fro more?
  59. # [03:56] <kylewm> I may be interested in it eventually, for following/follower stuff
  60. # [03:56] <kylewm> i like organizing by url, i didn't quite understand that that was the suggestion earlier
  61. # [03:56] <KevinMarks_> that wasn't the original one; I found it better when I tried
  62. # [03:57] <KevinMarks_> as it works well for xfn
  63. # [03:57] <@tantek> KevinMarks - again "should I check for more" is the wrong question. The right question is, "are there any use-cases that need any more?"
  64. # [03:57] <KevinMarks_> that si waht I meant
  65. # [03:58] <@tantek> rarely how people interpret it
  66. # [03:58] <KevinMarks_> enclosures use type and title, feed etc use title and type
  67. # [03:58] <KevinMarks_> your point about them being a fixed set was well taken
  68. # [03:58] <@tantek> kevinmarks - the attributes in your design have array values for no reason
  69. # [03:59] <@tantek> e.g. name: [ Technology ]
  70. # [03:59] <@tantek> HTML elements can only have a single attribute by a given name
  71. # [03:59] <@tantek> note how "alternates" is flatter: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parse_a_hyperlink_element_for_rel_microformats
  72. # [04:00] <KevinMarks_> ah, I followed the name pattern from the rest of mf2
  73. # [04:01] <@tantek> KevinMarks - the use of "name" there is still wrong
  74. # [04:01] <@tantek> it's not the same thing as the use of "name" elsewhere in microformats2
  75. # [04:01] <@tantek> and using the same key to mean two different things is only going to confuse devs
  76. # [04:02] <KevinMarks_> what do you suggest instead?
  77. # [04:02] <@tantek> go back to the use-case, what precisely do you need, and nothing more?
  78. # [04:03] <KevinMarks_> Name fits well for xfn and fro alternate in the feed case
  79. # [04:03] <@tantek> you're conflating parsing and semantics incorrectly
  80. # [04:03] <@tantek> don't do "magic" with the "title" attribute
  81. # [04:03] <KevinMarks_> you're saying it is confusing, I'm saying to plays the same semantic role as name elsewhere in mf2
  82. # [04:03] <@tantek> just have it be there, along with "type" etc.
  83. # [04:04] <@tantek> it doesn't because elsewhere in mf2 there's always the opportunity to have an explicit p-name
  84. # [04:04] <@tantek> and you're conflating innertext and the title attribute and that's no good
  85. # [04:05] <@tantek> no I retract that - I see the explicit "title" attribute now
  86. # [04:06] <@tantek> "title": "real title"
  87. # [04:06] <KevinMarks_> I'm not, they are there independently: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#rel-enclosure
  88. # [04:06] <KevinMarks_> right
  89. # [04:07] <@tantek> also - in the rest of mf2, a p-name can sometimes come from other attributes, e.g. the <img alt>
  90. # [04:07] <KevinMarks_> that's why name worked - feedparser uses "term" and "label for the 2 parts fo tag
  91. # [04:07] <KevinMarks_> not sure where that si from
  92. # [04:08] <@tantek> we really should just use the DOM terminology here
  93. # [04:08] <KevinMarks_> https://pythonhosted.org/feedparser/reference-feed-tags.html
  94. # [04:09] <@tantek> since that's essentially what we're representing
  95. # [04:11] <KevinMarks_> which would be what, innertext?
  96. # [04:11] <@tantek> looking it up now...
  97. # [04:12] <KevinMarks_> sizes was mentioned by aaronpk as useful for rel-icon
  98. # [04:12] <@tantek> yeah - need to write-up the use-case
  99. # [04:14] <KevinMarks_> do we want coords and shape from area ones?
  100. # [04:14] <KevinMarks_> for the person tag case?
  101. # [04:19] <@tantek> no that doesn't help because rels are global/top level only
  102. # [04:19] <@tantek> we need to solve that in a microformat h-* object scoped manner
  103. # [04:19] <@tantek> ok found it
  104. # [04:19] <@tantek> textContent
  105. # [04:19] <@tantek> e.g. document.body.textContent
  106. # [04:19] <@tantek> there - re-use at least
  107. # [04:19] <@tantek> instead of reinvention
  108. # [04:20] <KevinMarks_> with camelcase?
  109. # [04:21] <@tantek> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Node/textContent?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=DOM%2FNode.textContent
  110. # [04:21] <@tantek> sorry
  111. # [04:21] <@tantek> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Node/textContent
  112. # [04:24] <@tantek> yeah - might as well go with that literally, as camelCase is a JSON convention
  113. # [04:28] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64918&oldid=64917&rcid=101294 * Kevin Marks * (+984) /* more information for rel-based formats */ list attributes
  114. # [04:29] <KevinMarks_> hm, did I mis-nest that
  115. # [04:33] <@tantek> fixing
  116. # [04:33] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64919&oldid=64918&rcid=101295 * Tantek * (+755) /* more information for rel-based formats */ add feedback about name, no need for array, urls
  117. # [04:33] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=64920&oldid=64839&rcid=101296 * Kevin Marks * (+97) /* parse a hyperlink element for rel microformats */ add title
  118. # [04:34] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64921&oldid=64919&rcid=101297 * Tantek * (+40) /* feedback on more rel info */ since only one at most
  119. # [04:35] <KevinMarks_> see the edit i just made to parsing
  120. # [04:36] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64922&oldid=64921&rcid=101298 * Tantek * (+135) /* attributes parsed */ don't need coords and shape on rels
  121. # [04:36] <@tantek> KevinMarks - yes that looks good
  122. # [04:37] <@tantek> also wrote up the feedback on your brainstorm a bit - pretty sure I covered the different points http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#feedback_on_more_rel_info
  123. # [04:40] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64923&oldid=64922&rcid=101299 * Kevin Marks * (+232) /* rel-alternate */
  124. # [04:41] <@tantek> is there a use-case for textContent on alternates?
  125. # [04:41] <@tantek> e.g. <link> has no textContent
  126. # [04:41] <KevinMarks_> your example doea
  127. # [04:42] <KevinMarks_> http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#rel_parse_examples
  128. # [04:42] <@tantek> lol
  129. # [04:42] <KevinMarks_> "French mobile homepage" is useful if offering alternatives
  130. # [04:43] <@tantek> as does "Mobile homepage"
  131. # [04:43] <KevinMarks_> right - in the same way as it's useful for rel-me
  132. # [04:44] <@tantek> to show a label
  133. # [04:44] <KevinMarks_> and probably for syndication too
  134. # [04:48] <@tantek> alright I'm going make that a separate brainstorming item
  135. # [04:49] <KevinMarks_> did you see the mf2 I found in the embbede tweet iframes?
  136. # [04:49] <KevinMarks_> benward is marking them up well
  137. # [04:51] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64924&oldid=64923&rcid=101300 * Tantek * (+69) move more information for alternates to its own suggestion since it's orthogonal
  138. # [04:57] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=64925&oldid=64920&rcid=101301 * Tantek * (+270) /* parse a hyperlink element for rel microformats */
  139. # [04:57] <@tantek> oops meant to say: move title and add textContent on alternates to proposed
  140. # [04:58] <KevinMarks_> also should link to the brainstorming
  141. # [04:58] <@tantek> yes
  142. # [05:00] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=64926&oldid=64925&rcid=101302 * Tantek * (+104) link to brainstorming for more information for alternates
  143. # [05:01] <@tantek> KevinMarks: now that we have interop among parsers, we need to add proposed changes like that explicitly to a proposed section for review by other parser developers
  144. # [05:01] <@tantek> rather than just edit the spec inline
  145. # [05:01] <@tantek> also relates to keeping stable things stable - helps / necessary for being able to normatively reference e.g. from W3C drafts
  146. # [05:01] <@tantek> to keep stable / proposed things clearly delineated
  147. # [05:39] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64927&oldid=64924&rcid=101303 * Tantek * (+101) /* more information for alternates */ discussion, +1 makes sense
  148. # [05:41] <Loqi> [[microformats2-parsing-brainstorming]] http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-brainstorming&diff=64928&oldid=64927&rcid=101304 * Tantek * (+33) /* feedback on more rel info */ discussion
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  173. # [08:51] <@tantek> also since "textContent" is both ugly camelCase, I could live with shortening it to "text".
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  244. # [18:55] <KevinMarks_> tommorris: did you see the parsing discussion?
  245. # [18:55] <KevinMarks_> http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#more_information_for_rel-based_formats
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  247. # [18:56] <KevinMarks_> if tantek's name changes make sense to you too, I'll make them and send you a pull
  248. # [19:20] <@tantek> KevinMarks - want to update your proposal on the wiki first accordingly?
  249. # [19:24] <@tantek> I'd rather we have a precise spec update proposal on the wiki we can point to for any pull requests
  250. # [19:24] <@tantek> so that anyone can verify that the pull request does something according to a proposed spec update
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