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  87. # [17:43] <elf-pavlik> hi tantek o/ why this page has some lock preventing editing? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-rdf
  88. # [17:43] <Loqi> elf-pavlik: tantek left you a message on 5/30 at 2:30pm: "mf" appears to be an organically emerged convention abbreviation for microformats anyway so sure, using mf: prefix for vocabulary terms defined by microformats.org seems reasonable for folks that need such prefixes. We try to avoid prefixes because they're fragile.
  89. # [17:43] <Loqi> [@okesaxojofol39] Klant tevreden over zowel #KPN als #UPC http://www.allesin1vergelijker.eu/kpn-alles-in-1-pakket-recensie/?wpcrp=1#hreview-16 … "Positief Woord" inderdaad! (http://twtr.io/102DuR2wcYo)
  90. # [17:44] <elf-pavlik> roger!
  91. # [17:45] <elf-pavlik> BTW page mentioned above uses *uf:* and keeps prefixes intended for parser, which i just removed from mf2rdf via PR https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3
  92. # [17:45] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: many pages got locked due to vandalism - if you're interested in microformats2-parsing-rdf in particular - strongly recommend you ping tommorris as he's the one that figured it out and is working on it
  93. # [17:45] <elf-pavlik> tommorris++
  94. # [17:45] <Loqi> tommorris has 79 karma
  95. # [17:46] <elf-pavlik> last edit > 2 years ago - http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-rdf&action=history
  96. # [17:46] <elf-pavlik> i also would like to map microformats.org <-> schema.org, tracking it here https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/559
  97. # [17:47] <@tantek> elf-pavlik: have you tried creating an account on microformats.org/wiki to edit any pages? it looks like registered accounts should be able to edit that page
  98. # [17:48] <@tantek> anyway - I have to run - but feel free to ping tommorris too - as he's also an admin and can edit the page protection if necessary.
  99. # [17:49] <elf-pavlik> tantek, i logged in but couldn't edit that page... have edited some other ones lately and it worked!
  100. # [17:50] <elf-pavlik> i'll wait for tommorris' reply, no rush on that :)
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  105. # [18:32] <Loqi> [@scott_gruber] Welcome to the microformats wiki! · Microformats Wiki http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page (http://twtr.io/102JLAYRJMs)
  106. # [18:33] <tommorris> elf-pavlik: I can unlock pages if you want to edit.
  107. # [18:33] <elf-pavlik> tommorris, yes please :) http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-rdf
  108. # [18:34] <tommorris> ah, actually, it's semi-protected. you should be able to edit as a registered user. only sysops can move the page
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  111. # [18:58] <elf-pavlik> tommorris, i stay logged in, visit: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing-rdf&action=edit
  112. # [18:59] <elf-pavlik> it says: "You do not have permission to edit pages, for the following reason:
  113. # [18:59] <elf-pavlik> This page has been locked to prevent editing."
  114. # [18:59] <tommorris> Ah okay, will change
  115. # [19:02] <Loqi> [@yoshihiko_take] 構造化データ（http://microformats.org hAtom）をテンプレートに組み込んでマークアップしたお話。 http://t.co/vXWMzfedt9 (http://twtr.io/zwhkKqkrrU)
  116. # [19:07] <elf-pavlik> tommorris, does NOT including parser intended prefixes in the vocab make sense to you? https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3
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  119. # [19:18] <Loqi> [[Special:Log/protect]] modify * TomMorris * changed protection level for "[[microformats2-parsing-rdf]]": changed protection so elf can edit [move=sysop]
  120. # [19:19] <tommorris> elf-pavlik: in the rdfs:label? sure. as for URLs? not that bothered. ;-)
  121. # [19:20] <elf-pavlik> tommorris, p-* u-* dt-* etc. AFAIK don't affect semantics but only give hint to parser where to find value in HTML
  122. # [19:20] <elf-pavlik> e.g. when parsed to json they get dropped
  123. # [19:20] <tommorris> yep, true and true.
  124. # [19:21] <tommorris> also, there might be a compelling case for having a "multi-typed" property at some point. I can't think of one.
  125. # [19:21] <tommorris> but my not being able to think of a use case doesn't mean that there won't be one at some point
  126. # [19:23] <elf-pavlik> rhiaro, had e-description https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3/files#diff-29c964a22b0f49a13e6544ee795dd181L187
  127. # [19:24] <elf-pavlik> and p-description https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3/files#diff-29c964a22b0f49a13e6544ee795dd181L266
  128. # [19:24] <tommorris> yep, p- and e- prefixes seem like a likely candidate
  129. # [19:24] <elf-pavlik> also u-category and p-category
  130. # [19:24] <tommorris> since e- is basically a subtype of string that's demarcated as containing HTML.
  131. # [19:25] <elf-pavlik> since one can tag person or topic from e.g. dbpedia
  132. # [19:25] <elf-pavlik> https://github.com/aaronpk/Micropub/blob/master/user-stories/SWAT0.md#1-benwerd-takes-a-photo-of-aaronpk
  133. # [19:25] <tommorris> I've +1'd the pull request.
  134. # [19:25] <tommorris> https://github.com/rhiaro/mf2rdf/pull/3#issuecomment-107225896
  135. # [19:25] * tommorris pops out for a walk.
  136. # [19:26] <elf-pavlik> <li><a class="u-category h-card" href="http://aaronparecki.com/">Aaron Parecki</a></li>
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  139. # [19:27] <tommorris> elf-pavlik: have you got any ideas of how to combine RDFa and mf2rdf output? like, combining the graph outputs and then turning into JSON-LD
  140. # [19:28] <tommorris> I only ask because a while back I wrote some Django middleware that uses content negotiation to return microformats2 JSON when you ask for application/json, and parsed RDF when you ask for, say, application/rdf+xml (or the equivalents for n3, ntriples and turtle)
  141. # [19:28] <tommorris> and it might be interesting to combine these
  142. # [19:28] <elf-pavlik> i'll work on converting microformats HTML to microformats JSON-LD in this repo https://github.com/elf-pavlik/mf2jsonld
  143. # [19:28] * tommorris shall read any responses offline, as he needs to go out and enjoy the little remaining sunshine in London.
  144. # [19:29] * elf-pavlik enjoy the sunshine tommorris!
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