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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jun 24 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #testing
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  15. # [11:57] <tobie> hey darobin
  16. # [11:57] <tobie> back at work?
  17. # [11:57] <darobin> hey tobie!
  18. # [11:57] <darobin> yes
  19. # [11:57] <tobie> :(
  20. # [11:57] <darobin> heh
  21. # [11:57] <darobin> I like work!
  22. # [11:58] <tobie> :)
  23. # [11:58] <Ms2ger> Excellent
  24. # [11:58] <tobie> Wrote a small script to add labels to PR on web-platform-tests
  25. # [11:59] <darobin> sounds good
  26. # [11:59] * Ms2ger changes topic to ''
  27. # [11:59] <tobie> eg: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues?labels=IndexedDB&page=1&state=open
  28. # [11:59] * Ms2ger changes topic to 'Logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/testing/'
  29. # [12:00] <tobie> next step is to push notifications to a/multiple mailing lists
  30. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/search?path=IndexedDB ?
  31. # [12:00] <tobie> (so people can filter what they want to be notified of)
  32. # [12:01] <tobie> Ms2ger: I've expressed how I feel about critic a number of times already. :)
  33. # [12:01] <tobie> and also, why.
  34. # [12:02] <Ms2ger> I just think it's unfortunate that you're reinventing the wheel
  35. # [12:03] <tobie> Yeah, I also feel its unfortunate that critic is building a parallel system to GH with a very steep learning curve rather than build on top of GH to improve everyone's experince.
  36. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> [citation needed] for the steep learning curve :)
  37. # [12:04] <tobie> Especially when the overall goal of this project is to make testing more approachable.
  38. # [12:04] <tobie> So that we get more contributions from the community.
  39. # [12:04] <tobie> But oh well.
  40. # [12:05] <tobie> "I've tried using Critic a bunch of times and still don't understand wtf is going on." --tobie
  41. # [12:05] <tobie> ^ good?
  42. # [12:06] <Ms2ger> Could you try finding the list of open IDB reviews in Critic and let me know how hard you found it?
  43. # [12:07] <Ms2ger> I really don't see how it's hard to use, but maybe that's just me
  44. # [12:09] <tobie> Well, the link above kind of gave it away.
  45. # [12:15] <tobie> Anyway. I was looking a creating a notification stream out of this and had two questions.
  46. # [12:16] <tobie> 1) do we want multiple mailing lists with only part of the notifications on each one (e.g. [indexedDB], [cors] go to public-webapps-testing)
  47. # [12:17] <tobie> … or one big mailing list which everyone can use their preferred mail client to filter from
  48. # [12:17] <tobie> 2) what should we notify the list of? new issues / pr, every comments, etc.
  49. # [12:17] <Ms2ger> I don't think a wg-based split is useful
  50. # [12:24] <AutomatedTester> my issue is that GH issues is that it makes jira look useful
  51. # [12:27] <tobie> AutomatedTester: :D
  52. # [12:28] * darobin has serious doubts that anything can make jira look useful, really
  53. # [12:28] <darobin> perhaps a pile of unrecognisable gunk, in a puddle, on a bad day
  54. # [12:28] <darobin> but even then
  55. # [12:28] <darobin> anyway
  56. # [12:29] <darobin> tobie: I reckon send the firehose to just the one location, and let a thousand filters bloom
  57. # [12:30] <tobie> darobin: I'll start with this. We can always add the other option later
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  61. # [13:39] <jgraham> Actually our goal isn't to get people contributing tests
  62. # [13:40] <jgraham> Our goal is to get an interoperable platform
  63. # [13:40] <Ms2ger> Speak for yourself ;)
  64. # [13:40] <jgraham> Trying to get random members of the web-dev community is only one strategy that we can use to help achieve that goal
  65. # [13:42] <Ms2ger> Another is getting useful specs
  66. # [13:42] <Ms2ger> Based on https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/types.html#InterfaceSVGAnimatedEnumeration , tell me if setting baseVal can throw
  67. # [13:44] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Yes, per WebIDL
  68. # [13:45] <Ms2ger> In the sense that everything can throw?
  69. # [13:45] <jgraham> In the sense that setting it to an out of range value can throw
  70. # [13:46] <Ms2ger> That's only with some extended attribute, though
  71. # [13:46] <Ms2ger> But I was thinking more about after WebIDL did its things
  72. # [13:46] <jgraham> I don't think you need an extended attribute
  73. # [13:47] <jgraham> But after web IDL, I don't know
  74. # [13:47] <jgraham> It doesn't make any sense to me that you would have something that describes itself as "constant" not be readonly
  75. # [13:48] <jgraham> Oh, I see
  76. # [13:48] <Ms2ger> I guess it means "one out of a set of constants"
  77. # [13:48] <jgraham> Yeah, no idea what happens if you set it outside the valid constants
  78. # [13:48] <jgraham> Nothing to suggest it ought to throw
  79. # [13:48] <Ms2ger> That's what I thought
  80. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> Gecko does throw, of course
  81. # [13:49] <jgraham> Ask heycam
  82. # [13:49] <jgraham> The intersection of webidl and svg is surely his specialist subject :)
  83. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> Yeah, but he's in an annoying time zone
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