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  1. # Session Start: Thu Aug 15 00:00:00 2013
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  12. # [07:24] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] sgrekhov synchronize pull request #135: Submission/unipro (master...submission/unipro) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/135
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  24. # [13:06] <odinho> MikeSmith: tinazhao on GitHub needs access to web-platform-tests :-) She is test facilitator for SSE
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  26. # [13:06] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont closed pull request #232: Update format-field-retry.htm (master...patch-1) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/232
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  29. # [13:07] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont closed pull request #233: Update format-field-retry-bogus.htm (master...patch-2) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/233
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  32. # [13:09] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/d5a18ec6caa8b47b2550f4c5fbe45484340299fe
  33. # [13:09] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master d5a18ec Odin Hørthe Omdal: eventsource: Make the test name explicit in format-field
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  36. # [13:44] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont created odinho/sse-utf8 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/88c560d9560b
  37. # [13:44] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/odinho/sse-utf8 88c560d Odin Hørthe Omdal: eventsource: Check that charset is ignored and UTF-8 is decoded.
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  40. # [13:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont opened pull request #276: eventsource: Check that charset is ignored and UTF-8 is decoded. (master...odinho/sse-utf8) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/276
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  43. # [13:48] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont closed pull request #268: Fixed eventsource/format-utf-8.htm (master...submission/zqzhang/fixing-format-utf-8) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/268
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  47. # [14:36] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #276: eventsource: Check that charset is ignored and UTF-8 is decoded. (master...odinho/sse-utf8) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/276
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  50. # [14:49] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Velmont deleted odinho/sse-utf8 at 88c560d: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/88c560d
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  52. # [15:27] <MikeSmith> odinho: will add her now
  53. # [15:36] <odinho> :-)
  54. # [15:58] <jgraham> So, I could use some sort of final decision about how test metadata will be stored
  55. # [15:59] <jgraham> Or, rather, how I should determine which files are tests and of which type
  56. # [16:00] <jgraham> It also occurs to me that having some way of extracting the expected timeouts from tests would be rather useful
  57. # [16:03] <Ms2ger> My manifests :)
  58. # [16:04] <jgraham> I guess, but also ugh
  59. # [16:04] <jgraham> I don't really like manifests
  60. # [16:05] <jgraham> and I'm not sure that your ones have a lot of benefits over file naming conventions
  61. # [16:05] <jgraham> But ones where unusually large timeouts could be documented would be useful
  62. # [16:09] <jgraham> manifestdestiny-style manifests seem like extreme overkill though
  63. # [16:12] <Ms2ger> I hate those :)
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  67. # [16:50] <jgraham> I guess manifests are needed, since they should be a list of relative urls, rather than a list of filenames
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  70. # [17:31] <jgraham> Ms2ger: It is possible that I have horribly misrepresented something somewhere; please tell me if so
  71. # [17:32] * Ms2ger will read at some point :)
  72. # [17:34] <jgraham> Hmm, it seems plh wrote something for parsing manifests at some point
  73. # [17:34] <Ms2ger> jgraham, another alternative is reftest.ini / testharness.ini / ...
  74. # [17:34] <jgraham> That's true
  75. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> But I hate the [] line noise
  76. # [17:36] <jgraham> You mean the ini files being manifestdestiny-style?
  77. # [17:36] <jgraham> I think [] sucks too
  78. # [17:36] <jgraham> I see why they did that
  79. # [17:37] <jgraham> But it doesn't make for an easy to read file when you have mostly [foo] lines
  80. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> Right
  81. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> Clearly we need yaml
  82. # [17:38] * jgraham decides that requring phantom.js to update manifests is not acceptable
  83. # [17:39] <jgraham> Or the Hixie approach where you invent your own format :)
  84. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> Or mine :)
  85. # [17:40] <Ms2ger> Actually, we should clearly use XML
  86. # [17:40] <jgraham> Haha
  87. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> <testsuite><test type="manual>a.xhtml</test><test type="reftest"><original>b.xhtml</original><reference>b-ref.xhtml</reference></test></testsuite>
  88. # [17:41] <jgraham> <tests><test><type>testharness</type><url>foo.html</url><metadata><timeout>1000</timeout></metadata></test></tests>
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  90. # [17:41] <jgraham> Attributes are for wimps :)
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  92. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> <testharness-test/>?
  93. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> Anyway, I'm not going to mention that on the list, lest the CSSWG takes it seriously
  94. # [17:44] <jgraham> Good thinking
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  109. # [22:05] <tobie> jgraham: think we should go manifest-free. There's enough metadata in the tests for manifests in general to be overkill.
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  111. # [22:24] <jgraham> tobie: There isn't, and it's somewhere between hard and very difficult to get the data out
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