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  14. # [01:45] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jacobrossi opened pull request #324: Submission/microsoft/pointer events (master...submission/Microsoft/PointerEvents) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/324
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  34. # [11:21] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] martap opened pull request #325: app-URI spec compliance tests (master...submission/martap) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/325
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  77. # [18:06] <krisk> Hello
  78. # [18:07] <krisk> The only item I wanted to discuss was TPAC+TTWF in China
  79. # [18:07] <krisk> Rebecca is looking for people that are planning on attending to help with the TTWF event
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  81. # [18:10] <jgraham> Oh we have a meeting?
  82. # [18:10] * jgraham is planning to be at TestTWF
  83. # [18:11] <jgraham> I will obviously help and stuff
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  86. # [18:12] <jgraham> krisk: Did you have anything specific that you wanted to talk about?
  87. # [18:15] <krisk> I'm not planning on attending right now (work conflict)
  88. # [18:15] <krisk> Though I can see if some other people can give a talk or help out at the TTWF event
  89. # [18:16] <krisk> Paul Cotton said the event in august had a ton of participants
  90. # [18:17] <Ms2ger> Would be interesting to see how we can get attendants to address review comments
  91. # [18:18] <Ms2ger> And to get people to test the spec, not "whatever Chrome does, even if it contradicts everyone else"
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  93. # [18:20] <krisk> I agree that people should test the spec and not assume Chrome is correct. Especially when Chrome doesn't match other browsers.
  94. # [18:21] <krisk> No urgent need to close, but good to just pass this information around...
  95. # [18:21] <krisk> Also Rebecca is ideally looking for someone that can present/help that speaks chinese
  96. # [18:24] <jgraham> Unrelatedly, I am doing some cleanup of the test repo
  97. # [18:24] <jgraham> Not really by choice
  98. # [18:24] <jgraham> We seem to have decided on the convention that manual tests end with -manual\]
  99. # [18:24] <jgraham> +have names that and -random symbols
  100. # [18:25] <jgraham> There are a bunch of cases where that isn't true right now
  101. # [18:25] <jgraham> And there are a whole load of broken tests
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  103. # [18:26] <jgraham> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/3017981 are all broken, and at that point I moved on to something else
  104. # [18:26] <jgraham> So the list isn't complete
  105. # [18:27] <jgraham> I am going to assume that the conversation around metadata dying down is rough consensus (and I have running code), although there is still an open question about timeouts
  106. # [18:28] <jgraham> to wit: to what extent should authors be able to set timeouts and how should we store any timeout that they do set
  107. # [18:29] <krisk> Timeouts are tricky...since they can lead to really poor performance
  108. # [18:30] <jgraham> Yes, and the requirements vary per device, and don't scale equally for all tests
  109. # [18:30] <krisk> I'd prefer a way for an author to suggest to have a timeout, but allow a person running a test(s) to have a simple override
  110. # [18:31] <krisk> E.g. I run test on a slow device and need to change this w/o editing all the tests
  111. # [18:31] <jgraham> (e.g. a test with setTimeout(30000) should take about 30s independent of device, whereas one that does lots of CPU might scale quite differently
  112. # [18:34] <krisk> Yes - other factors can make a test run slow...
  113. # [18:35] <krisk> For example if you are running non 'retail' code, aka Debug
  114. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> jgraham, what's wrong with dom/ranges/Range-mutations.html?
  115. # [18:38] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Nothing :p
  116. # [18:38] <jgraham> Dunno why it was on the list. Might have been a copyo
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