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  33. # [08:56] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak pushed 1 new commit to deniak/google-old-tests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/14098dc43843b8ad21d865bac065886a826a33b7
  34. # [08:56] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-old-tests 14098dc Denis Ah-Kang: Finalize Google tests migration
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  37. # [09:00] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak opened pull request #368: Deniak/google old tests (master...deniak/google-old-tests) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/368
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  42. # [09:09] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak created deniak/google-video-audio-attr (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/6e4f1c9bfbbe
  43. # [09:09] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-video-audio-attr 6e4f1c9 Denis Ah-Kang: Remove tests looking for the audio attribute in <video>
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  51. # [09:18] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak created deniak/google-video-audio-attr (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/2fabd5051e42
  52. # [09:18] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/deniak/google-video-audio-attr 2fabd50 Denis Ah-Kang: Delete tests looking for the audio attribute in <video> since it doesn't...
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  55. # [09:19] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] deniak opened pull request #369: Delete tests looking for the audio attribute in <video> since it doesn't exist (master...deniak/google-video-audio-attr) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/369
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  84. # [15:13] <jgraham> In case anyone is interested http://hoppipolla.co.uk/410/results.html
  85. # [15:14] <jgraham> All(?) web-platform-tests in Gecko
  86. # [15:15] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: &
  87. # [15:15] <jgraham> er s/&/^/
  88. # [15:15] * jgraham is not trying to put you in the background
  89. # [15:16] <jgraham> Still need to figure out the 129 timeouts
  90. # [15:17] <jgraham> darobin: Any idea if you could modify the canvas script to name the manual tests -manual?
  91. # [15:17] <jgraham> (or are those broken for some other reason?)
  92. # [15:17] <zcorpan> jgraham: nice
  93. # [15:18] <darobin> jgraham: on phone, bbiab
  94. # [15:20] <jgraham> zcorpan: I think a bunch of the track tests are broken
  95. # [15:20] <jgraham> In that they either fail locally where they don't on w3c-test.org or they fail differently locally to w3c-test.org
  96. # [15:20] <zcorpan> jgraham: maybe 0/0 in the results should be colored red?
  97. # [15:20] <jgraham> So at some point I will probbably ask for your help there
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  99. # [15:21] <jgraham> Yeah, I can do that
  100. # [15:21] <zcorpan> jgraham: ok, sure thing
  101. # [15:21] <zcorpan> i see some of the TIMEOUT are helper files
  102. # [15:22] <jgraham> Yeah, not sure what to do about that
  103. # [15:22] <jgraham> Helper files that include testharness.js are detected as tests
  104. # [15:24] <Ms2ger`> http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/webstorage/idlharness.html has
  105. # [15:24] <Ms2ger`> <script src="/webidl2.js/lib/webidl2.js"></script>
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  108. # [15:24] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: <3
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  112. # [15:26] <jgraham> I love it when I am wondering who to ask about something and git annotate tells me that I wrote every line…
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  114. # [15:26] <jgraham> (in this case I'm pretty sure I just committed every line and wrote none)
  115. # [15:27] <jgraham> zcorpan: Any idea whether 008.js for http://web-platform.test:8000/html/browsers/history/the-history-interface/008.html exists anywhere?
  116. # [15:27] <jgraham> It must be an Opera test
  117. # [15:28] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: are you loading the tests manually or using something to start the browser?
  118. # [15:29] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: It uses wptrunner which automatically starts (several instances of) the browser and controls the whole thing with marionette
  119. # [15:29] <AutomatedTester> so so cool
  120. # [15:30] * Ms2ger` wonders about the overhead
  121. # [15:30] <jgraham> Ms2ger`: What do you mean?
  122. # [15:31] <zcorpan> jgraham: http://team.opera.com/testbed/generic/historyinterface/008.js
  123. # [15:31] <Ms2ger`> Do you startup O(# of tests) or O(max # of tests running at one time) browsers?
  124. # [15:31] <zcorpan> jgraham: i guess it's intended to be cross-origin?
  125. # [15:31] <jgraham> zcorpan: Awesome, thanks
  126. # [15:31] <jgraham> Yeah
  127. # [15:32] <jgraham> Ms2ger`: I start a fixed number of browsers
  128. # [15:32] <jgraham> In this case 6
  129. # [15:32] <Ms2ger`> Okay
  130. # [15:32] <AutomatedTester> jgraham: no crashes this time :)
  131. # [15:32] <jgraham> (starting 4000-ish browsers would be a bit insane :)
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  133. # [15:33] <Ms2ger`> I was thinking something along those lines :)
  134. # [15:33] <jgraham> AutomatedTester: Indeed :)
  135. # [15:34] * Ms2ger` wonders where the "SyntaxError: invalid property id" errors come from
  136. # [15:37] <jgraham> Ms2ger`: From the lack of quotes in the file. I can fix :)
  137. # [15:38] <jgraham> Uh, wrong reason, but I can fix anyway
  138. # [15:38] <Ms2ger`> Which file?
  139. # [15:40] <jgraham> The actual reason was that the script file wasn't being piped through the template substitution
  140. # [15:40] <jgraham> So it had a syntax error
  141. # [15:41] <Ms2ger`> Ah
  142. # [15:46] <Ms2ger`> jgraham, also, I wonder if it'd be hard to reuse your code for servo
  143. # [15:47] <jgraham> Well it uses a bunch of Fx-specific stuff in MozBase at the moment
  144. # [15:47] <jgraham> and Servo doesn't have WebDriver
  145. # [15:48] <jgraham> So it is probably possible to reuse some parts, but I don't really know how much
  146. # [15:48] <Ms2ger`> I see
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  149. # [15:54] <darobin> jgraham: wow, automated results, rocking!
  150. # [15:58] <darobin> jgraham: re canvas tests, yes, that would make sense — I'm looking at how it flags manual tests now
  151. # [15:59] <jgraham> darobin: Great
  152. # [15:59] <darobin> look like you check for '@manual' in test['code']
  153. # [16:00] <darobin> jgraham: btw, have you documented the conventions somewhere?
  154. # [16:00] <darobin> the ones we ended up agreeing on and that are in your script I mean
  155. # [16:00] <jgraham> darobin: Uh, no.
  156. # [16:00] <jgraham> You mean not everyone on the planet reads public-test-infra religiously?
  157. # [16:00] <darobin> it might not be entirely useless if they are a bit more than lore and "read the source to that thing in jgraham's repo" :)
  158. # [16:00] <jgraham> Yeah it seems like a good idea
  159. # [16:01] <jgraham> I will need to figure out this testtwf website
  160. # [16:01] <darobin> I also mean that those who do might not recall where exactly to find the final conventions :)
  161. # [16:01] <darobin> either that, or if that requires too much time dump them somewhere and I can figure things out with tobie to put them there
  162. # [16:05] <jgraham> Hmm, it's not really clear how it would fit into the layout
  163. # [16:05] <jgraham> I think you would need "creating a manual test"
  164. # [16:06] <jgraham> Although then you would lose the documentation that helper files must not contain testharness.js
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  166. # [16:07] <jgraham> (basically the conventions are <script src="/resources/testharness.js"></script> indicates a js test, -ref or the reftest <link> stuff indicates a reftest, -manual indicates a manual test and everything else is a helper file)
  167. # [16:08] <jgraham> (sorry, -ref indicates a reference file and a file with a corresponding -ref file indicates a reftest)
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  169. # [16:08] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin created canvas-flag-manual (+1 new commit): https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/3401f893c104
  170. # [16:08] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/canvas-flag-manual 3401f89 Robin Berjon: make the generation script produce manual tests in such a way that their names reflect it
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  173. # [16:09] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin opened pull request #370: Make the generation script produce manual tests in such a way that their names reflect it (master...canvas-flag-manual) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/370
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  175. # [16:09] <darobin> jgraham: done as https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/370
  176. # [16:09] <darobin> we could have a "test naming conventions" page
  177. # [16:12] <darobin> jgraham: have you seen item 2. under http://testthewebforward.org/docs/reftests.html#components-of-a-reftest ?
  178. # [16:12] <darobin> that strikes me as... more complicated
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  180. # [16:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #371: Make propagate-to-window-onerror.html actually run. (master...worker-window-onerror) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/371
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  183. # [16:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #372: Binary type (master...binaryType) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/372
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  186. # [16:13] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] Ms2ger opened pull request #373: Fix the link to the WebIDL parser in Storage's idlharness test. (master...storage-idlharness) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/373
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  188. # [16:13] <Ms2ger> jgraham, r? :)
  189. # [16:13] <jgraham> darobin: Yes, I saw that a few seconds ago. I then chose not to think more about it because I saw only pain
  190. # [16:14] <jgraham> If everyone also adds the in-file metadata that they are "required" to add, that is all very useless anyway
  191. # [16:14] <jgraham> (and as I said before, a system that doesn't encourage reusing refs is just broken)
  192. # [16:15] <darobin> amen
  193. # [16:15] <darobin> I'll ping tobie
  194. # [16:18] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Where does the spec say that binaryType is limited to known values?
  195. # [16:18] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
  196. # [16:18] <Ms2ger> It's a webidl enum
  197. # [16:18] <jgraham> Oh, sorry
  198. # [16:18] <jgraham> Yes
  199. # [16:19] <jgraham> So shouldn't it throw TypeError?
  200. # [16:30] <michou> hi! :)
  201. # [16:31] <michou> quick process-related question: do "editorial" changes to (CSS) tests need to be reviewed like new tests or otherwise substantial changes?
  202. # [16:31] <michou> I'm looking at some tests that are either not valid anymore (since the respective statements are no longer in the spec) or that simply need a syntax update
  203. # [16:31] <darobin> michou: that's pretty specific to the way in which the CSS WG operates, I would ask people on that WG
  204. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> jgraham, not for attributes
  205. # [16:32] <michou> darobin: ok, so you mean i should be asking on #css not on #testing? :D
  206. # [16:32] <darobin> e.g. stearns, plinss, hober...
  207. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> jgraham, those have a special case to fail silently
  208. # [16:32] <darobin> michou: if there are CSS testing people active there, then you might wish to try your luck there, yes
  209. # [16:32] <michou> darobin: ok, thanks!
  210. # [16:32] <darobin> michou: sorry for not being more helpful, it's just that CSS does things differently from the rest
  211. # [16:33] <michou> np
  212. # [16:35] <jgraham> Ms2ger: So they do!
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  214. # [16:35] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #372: Binary type (master...binaryType) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/372
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  217. # [16:47] <darobin> jgraham: r? for the canvas -manual?
  218. # [16:47] <darobin> it's a really small change
  219. # [16:53] <jgraham> darobin: Sure, just didn't notice the PR
  220. # [16:53] <darobin> ta
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  222. # [16:57] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham closed pull request #371: Make propagate-to-window-onerror.html actually run. (master...worker-window-onerror) https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/371
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  225. # [17:20] <jgraham> darobin: Any idea if you will be able to fix that PR today?
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  228. # [17:24] <darobin> jgraham: I don't understand your comment
  229. # [17:26] <darobin> jgraham: I can fix it today if you help me figure out what you mean :)
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  232. # [17:43] <jgraham> darobin: The patch seems to generate a lot of files like foo-manual.png and delete foo.png. But foo.html still refers to foo.png afaict
  233. # [17:44] <darobin> aaaaah, gottit
  234. # [17:44] <darobin> checking
  235. # [17:45] <darobin> indeed, bah! expected and expected_img are not the same thing
  236. # [17:45] <darobin> good catch
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  238. # [17:48] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] darobin pushed 1 new commit to canvas-flag-manual: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/6bac3b1a058b4cdac5524f7d3d698185a55fdfbf
  239. # [17:48] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/canvas-flag-manual 6bac3b1 Robin Berjon: make reference to newly named image file correct
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  241. # [17:49] <darobin> jgraham: fixored
  242. # [17:49] <jgraham> darobin: OK, reviewing. Also http://www.tbs-certificats.com/FAQ/en/normes_tld.html seems quite interesting
  243. # [17:51] <darobin> jgraham: interesting
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  245. # [17:51] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/f92203172a4c4f9b4bb213bdea2df2f11793e73a
  246. # [17:51] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/master f922031 jgraham: Merge pull request #370 from w3c/canvas-flag-manual...
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  248. # [17:52] <jgraham> darobin: Thanks for the fix. Now I have to rebase :)
  249. # [17:52] <darobin> so this clearly points to the solution of using a real domain and just mapping to it by overrding the hosts file
  250. # [17:52] <darobin> jgraham: thanks for the review!
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  252. # [17:53] <jgraham> Heh
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  254. # [17:54] <jgraham> I am slightly confused by the article though because all the other sources I could find just talked about not issuing new certs that might conflict with gTLDs
  255. # [17:54] <jgraham> They didn't mention the no-certs-for-reserved-tlds thing
  256. # [17:55] <darobin> well, I reckon we don't have to care
  257. # [17:56] <darobin> sadly, we can't get w.pt
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  259. # [17:59] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham pushed 1 new commit to jgraham/python: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commit/bf4843c47702c953a5673970bf588b59ccb715e8
  260. # [17:59] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python bf4843c James Graham: Update some tests to work better
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  263. # [18:02] -gitbot:#testing- [web-platform-tests] jgraham force-pushed jgraham/python from bf4843c to aa52653: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/commits/jgraham/python
  264. # [18:02] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python 13706be James Graham: Update tests to use normal/long harness timeouts
  265. # [18:02] -gitbot:#testing- web-platform-tests/jgraham/python 93432ca James Graham: Initial work on replacing PHP with Python designed for wptserve
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  273. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> jgraham, r? https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/359 :)
  274. # [18:36] <jgraham> Ms2ger: That file doesn't exist :p
  275. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> jgraham, at least it doesn't exist consistently with the other idlharness tests
  276. # [18:41] <jgraham> I will happily approve it if someone can tell me what the long term solution is so that I can fix all those tests
  277. # [18:43] <jgraham> The options as I see it are a) Use the long, real, path b) have a special hack in the server(config) for this specific path, c) Invent a generic mechanism for describing such hacks
  278. # [18:45] <jgraham> (I also need to work out what to do about always serving testharness.js and similar files as utf8 even when they are included in a utf-16 file)
  279. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> B wfm
  280. # [18:46] <jgraham> So my only real objection to b) is that it makes it hard to figure out what path to use by inspection
  281. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> By inspection how?
  282. # [18:47] <jgraham> By looking at the filesystem
  283. # [18:48] <jgraham> So we could do something like WebIDL.js.pointer
  284. # [18:48] <jgraham> A poor man's symlinks
  285. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> I'd put the file right there in the filesystem, myself
  286. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> But then again, I don't like git submodules
  287. # [18:49] <jgraham> But it's in the wrong repo to do that
  288. # [18:49] <jgraham> No one *likes* submodules
  289. # [18:49] <jgraham> It can happen that they are the least bad alternative
  290. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> That's assuming you put a git repo in /resources/
  291. # [18:53] <jgraham> So I don't fully understand the alternative
  292. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> What my Mozilla code does is just cherrypicking files from the repos and copying them all to the same dir
  293. # [19:00] <jgraham> So I guess that works, but it's not pretty
  294. # [19:00] <jgraham> It means that we have a whitelist of files
  295. # [19:00] <Ms2ger> C would be fine with me too, fwiw, I just don't want to write out /resources/webidl2/webidl/webidl/webidl2.js every time
  296. # [19:01] <jgraham> So I agree that's not idea
  297. # [19:01] <jgraham> l
  298. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> (Also: whyyyyy http://www.w3c-test.org/webidl2.js/)
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  304. # [19:57] <MikeSmith> I didn't put that there
  305. # [19:57] <MikeSmith> not so far as I recall at least
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